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She is nuts... No respect for humanity! "Thank God for 9/11" She needs to be shot!
 
Posted by: Scottjpw on the 22nd 2006f April 2006 | Comments: (88) | 
eeeesa 
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Posted by: eeeesa on the 22nd 2006f Apr @ 06:23 |
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| Lesson to be learned: Christianity also has extreamists! So just as you have normal Christians you get normal Muslims! Remember that! |
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Posted by: 197Sqn_ATC on the 22nd 2006f Apr @ 07:59 |
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I just so want to have an arguement with her. I hate people like this dont dont care about anyone else. All they want to do is to try and show their point without any concern in the way they do it and who it hurts. I disagree with the iraq war but tht desnt give me the right to go to some soldiers funeral and hold placards that say your glad that he/she has died. Why?   |
Tyrfingr
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Posted by: Tyrfingr on the 22nd 2006f Apr @ 08:32 |
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Shit like this can only be seen on stateside  , no way you'd see people with signs saying "thank god for dead soldiers" over here. That's just sick, and the live show they hold is just demented all over. |
bighead
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Posted by: bighead on the 22nd 2006f Apr @ 08:44 |
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That is fucking horrible.
What a dumb bitch. |
Uhhh
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Posted by: Uhhh on the 22nd 2006f Apr @ 08:48 |
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| Quote: | On 22-04-06 12:23 eeeesa wrote:
Lesson to be learned: Christianity also has extreamists! So just as you have normal Christians you get normal Muslims! Remember that! |
one big difference there chucky...this loon only has signs, the muslim extremists kill. A huge difference. |
herbtree
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Posted by: herbtree on the 22nd 2006f Apr @ 09:30 |
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| crazy bint. |
Bram
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Posted by: Bram on the 22nd 2006f Apr @ 10:03 |
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riiight, Hallelujah 
ignorant bitch! |
Fulgore
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Posted by: Fulgore on the 22nd 2006f Apr @ 10:05 |
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one big difference there chucky...this loon only has signs, the muslim extremists kill. A huge difference. |
The muslim scum use bombs and kill anything that gets in their way even their own kind. Although i cant sanction this womans actions i would rather she just held up signs instead of bomb the families, we can ignore her extremist sign and silly ways of accomplishing her goals. Although as a christian she had some extremely valid points on gays and the way america, the worlds biggest christian nation is allowing things against the bible teachings to happen on its shores. Sodomy is a sin so why would a christian country allow it to happen? |
Holymack..
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Posted by: Holymackrl on the 22nd 2006f Apr @ 10:19 |
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| wow ..... that is one of the meanest things i have ever heard/ seen anyone do, protest a funeral? mean..... |
Seris
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Posted by: Seris on the 22nd 2006f Apr @ 10:50 |
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| nice one... that's the spirit=)))) |
Buffalo
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Posted by: Buffalo on the 22nd 2006f Apr @ 11:01 |
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...Although as a christian she had some extremely valid points on gays... |
What valid points?
Doh,if i learnd somthing in my whole life,is that you cant change a person.(You are what you are,you cant change)
LOL christian trying to change gay ppl in str8 lol,why dont they try to transform a black guy into a chinese girl...bah...bunch of idiots...
Back on topic,she's a crazy bitch (is she some sort of Hitler F-Male Reincarnation?) |
Joe_
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Posted by: Joe_ on the 22nd 2006f Apr @ 11:23 |
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| are all news reporters so unprofessional? everyone can see that she's a lunatic but it's really sad to see on what kind of personal level the 2 reporters bring this. just shut her up and end the interview. i think this went way too far and was an emberassment for the reporters. should have reacted more professional. but i also remember a vid where there was a dude who also told something about iraq and the reactions were quite the same... must be a very complicated topic over there. |
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Posted by: H_TOWN_MEX on the 22nd 2006f Apr @ 11:43 |
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ONCE AGAIN CRACK KILLS!!!!! THIS BITCH DIDNT STOP SMILING THE WHOLE FUCKING VIDEO. ALL HER FAMILY IS FUCK UP!!  |
Funbags
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Posted by: Funbags on the 22nd 2006f Apr @ 12:35 |
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| Sad. |
Eddy
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Posted by: Eddy on the 22nd 2006f Apr @ 13:14 |
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| Wow Some americans are fucked in the head |
mz_nooza
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Posted by: mz_nooza on the 22nd 2006f Apr @ 13:47 |
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| Quote: | On 22-04-06 17:01 Buffalo wrote:
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What valid points?
Doh,if i learnd somthing in my whole life,is that you cant change a person.(You are what you are,you cant change)
LOL christian trying to change gay ppl in str8 lol,why dont they try to transform a black guy into a chinese girl...bah...bunch of idiots...
Back on topic,she's a crazy bitch (is she some sort of Hitler F-Male Reincarnation?) |
'You are what you are??' Does that make something ok? I was born a psychopath, dont try and change me, because as YOU have learned people cannot be changed. Your example was very poor. And your views are entirely subjective. |
Phantazm..
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Posted by: Phantazmo on the 22nd 2006f Apr @ 14:25 |
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so.......homosexuals are psycopaths? Whoa! then there must be like, 3 million psycopaths in the US! OMG! Inform the world! you stumbled onto the greatest secret in american history! WHOA! Also I hope you never eat shell fish, cause you know, in that same passage god says that eating shell fish is wrong also, but I see what you did, you ignore that, but listen to what you want to listen to from the bible, making your own god, okay then loser.  |
Bram
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Posted by: Bram on the 22nd 2006f Apr @ 14:35 |
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'You are what you are??' Does that make something ok? I was born a psychopath, dont try and change me, because as YOU have learned people cannot be changed. Your example was very poor. And your views are entirely subjective. |
I understand your anger, but partionally I have to agree with Buffalo. These kind of extremists are brainwashed and therefor almost impossible to 'cure'.
it's sad
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Posted by: billy_lam26 on the 22nd 2006f Apr @ 14:37 |
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| Man, the protesters there were lucky they did not get their asses kicked by the guards. |
KanDu
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Posted by: KanDu on the 22nd 2006f Apr @ 14:41 |
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| Holy _shit!!!_ |
Buffalo
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Posted by: Buffalo on the 22nd 2006f Apr @ 15:08 |
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'You are what you are??' Does that make something ok? I was born a psychopath, dont try and change me, because as YOU have learned people cannot be changed. Your example was very poor. And your views are entirely subjective. |
LOL Gay are Psychos? wow didnt know that
Thx to informing me! |
mz_nooza
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Posted by: mz_nooza on the 22nd 2006f Apr @ 16:14 |
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| who said gays are psychos? i am pointing out that saying 'you are what you are' is a poor argument as it can be used to justify many other actions. if you believe being gay is ok, then fine. just don't try to justify it by saying 'you are what you are' or 'you are born that way'. |
Funbags
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Posted by: Funbags on the 22nd 2006f Apr @ 16:27 |
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who said gays are psychos? i am pointing out that saying 'you are what you are' is a poor argument as it can be used to justify many other actions. if you believe being gay is ok, then fine. just don't try to justify it by saying 'you are what you are' or 'you are born that way'. |
Of course they were born that way, as were kiddie fiddlers. Dont mean its right. |
Buffalo
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Posted by: Buffalo on the 22nd 2006f Apr @ 16:35 |
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| Quote: | On 22-04-06 22:14 mz_nooza wrote:
who said gays are psychos? i am pointing out that saying 'you are what you are' is a poor argument as it can be used to justify many other actions. if you believe being gay is ok, then fine. just don't try to justify it by saying 'you are what you are' or 'you are born that way'. |
Look,You can not become gay,if you are gay,its coz you are born like that.
But,any 1 can become a psycho,Example ( You get raped by an old grenma )
Any way,who cares Peace man
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shotcala..
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Posted by: shotcala69 on the 22nd 2006f Apr @ 16:38 |
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| what a crack-whore. Keep fukn ur kids and smoke some more...puta |
mz_nooza
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Posted by: mz_nooza on the 22nd 2006f Apr @ 16:45 |
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Look,You can not become gay,if you are gay,its coz you are born like that.
But,any 1 can become a psycho,Example ( You get raped by an old grenma )
Any way,who cares Peace man
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Fair enough. For the record I don't hate gays at all, and i certainly don't wish them dead. Its just that sickos will start using the 'born that way' reason for other things if we are not careful. Peace to you to
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Posted by: Jesse50 on the 22nd 2006f Apr @ 18:47 |
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Being gay is only a small aspect of a person. Everyone has different sexual preferences(ex: a certain type of woman etc..) within their labeled sexual orientation(Gay, straight, bi) and we only have three labels because it makes it easier to differentiate between what's ok and what's not. Christians have no basis for their discrimination except for the fact that it makes them uncomfortable. Scientific research shows that different species of monkey's and such don't discriminate when it comes to mating for pleasure and there is no study that shows that homosexuals are any better or worse parents, employees or overall people than straight men. Christians base their beliefs on NOTHING and to label someone simply for something that could never define them is not only wrong but kinda stupid. I say these things in the name of Jesus Christ Amen  |
seagal
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Posted by: seagal on the 22nd 2006f Apr @ 19:11 |
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| she could be worse! she could be a Scientologist |
kinder
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Posted by: kinder on the 22nd 2006f Apr @ 19:23 |
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Obey,
God wants you to blabla...
If you do not obey, you will be punished.
...well of course, you are being punished for your sins
Apparently she knows the reason of everything thats going on in this world
I thought that reasoning was only for small kids |
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Posted by: raskolnikov on the 22nd 2006f Apr @ 19:45 |
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| just fox pulling out the nuttiest lefty they can find to discredit the arguement. she represents the opinion of about 5 people. fox works for the republicans. |
eeeesa
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Posted by: eeeesa on the 22nd 2006f Apr @ 19:48 |
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actually there are Extreamist Christians that have blown up abortion clincs because they disagree with abortion...
so dont think its only the muslims!
i'm sure a quick look on google would find enough examples... |
mz_nooza
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Posted by: mz_nooza on the 22nd 2006f Apr @ 20:01 |
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| Quote: | On 23-04-06 00:47 Jesse50 wrote:
Being gay is only a small aspect of a person. Everyone has different sexual preferences(ex: a certain type of woman etc..) within their labeled sexual orientation(Gay, straight, bi) and we only have three labels because it makes it easier to differentiate between what's ok and what's not. Christians have no basis for their discrimination except for the fact that it makes them uncomfortable. Scientific research shows that different species of monkey's and such don't discriminate when it comes to mating for pleasure and there is no study that shows that homosexuals are any better or worse parents, employees or overall people than straight men. Christians base their beliefs on NOTHING and to label someone simply for something that could never define them is not only wrong but kinda stupid. I say these things in the name of Jesus Christ Amen |
Arrrgggh again, dangerous arguments!!! Don't use nature as an example!! Remember monkeys also have canniblistic tendincies. Remember that the entire world labels certain activites right/wrong,not just sexual, and it is very difficult to give objective reasons for these rules. arguments for or against homosexuality are often flawed. if you agree with homosexuality, then fine. just don't use the behaviour of monkeys to back up your argument!!! |
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Posted by: musicman on the 22nd 2006f Apr @ 22:41 |
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This woman is a disgrace to anybody who is a Christian. She is obviously NOT a Christian, as Christians know that EVERYONE sins (even Christian's) and Jesus Christ died on the cross to take all of our sins upon him, as long as we accept him as the Truth, Light and Way to our Father God in heaven.
Anybody who says they believe that and then speaks like this woman is not a true Christian. Sounds like her family tree doesn't fork, it just goes straight up! |
mz_nooza
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Posted by: mz_nooza on the 22nd 2006f Apr @ 23:01 |
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| she looks inbred too. |
Jesse50
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Posted by: Jesse50 on the 23rd 2006f Apr @ 00:43 |
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Arrrgggh again, dangerous arguments!!! Don't use nature as an example!! Remember monkeys also have canniblistic tendincies. Remember that the entire world labels certain activites right/wrong,not just sexual, and it is very difficult to give objective reasons for these rules. arguments for or against homosexuality are often flawed. if you agree with homosexuality, then fine. just don't use the behaviour of monkeys to back up your argument!!! |
How 'bout we call it the behaviour of "animals" then kiddo? I'm sorry if your panties get a little tight when nature is introduced in a discussion so I'll explain it in a more simple juvenile fashion.
There is no universally accepted term for what we call people who prefer fat chicks, black chicks etc(chubbychaser?) but we do for people who like those of the opposite sex. Gay. We label people who prefer children pedophiles because numerous studies show the horrible effects it has on children and society(trauma begats trauma etc.) and it should therfore be condemned because it is proven to be wrong and harmful. However, 2 consenting adult males getting it on has never(this is true)ever by any study in history has been proven to be any more or less emotionally, physically or psychologically damaging to anyone than say, a guy who likes bitches. Now, we bring "animals into the dscussion because Christianity's primary argument against homosexuality(outside of God's booming voice) is that it's only function is for procreation and not pleasure and established churches(Catholicism, Mormonism etc.) cite the biology of human's and(you guessed it)animals in order to explain this. Do you now understand why Christian's have no basis for their homophobia? Pull your head out of your ass and think about it for a few seconds.... |
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Posted by: Fade_Arcanum on the 23rd 2006f Apr @ 03:29 |
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THIS IS INSANE... i dont belong to any sect of christianity, i belong to a home church in my city in australia... This women is taking the whole christianity and putting her own OPINIONS into it, mis interpretting the bible and making it seem like the whole thing is evil... i believe in christ, but she is taking it for granted... she obviously is acting like a corrupt pharisee (corrupt religious leaders during christs time on earth) by taking the bible... and forcing her own ideas upon it, not listening to the holy spirit (god) but using twisting the word (the bible) for her own gain... this is selfish and she is sinning.... if anything... Gods wrath will be upon HER and her SATANIC "church" she is not following the word... if anything she should be helping the families in need... for that is wat christians are called to do... nothing about bringing upon gods wrath... the bible says that God brings his OWN wrath, and NO one may call upon it and force gods hand... FOR CRYING OUT LOUD... he is GOD, a devine being and perfection that no one can comprehend, and i pray that this women and her suposed "baptist" church will realise their extremely dangerous fault before people get lead the wrong way, and possibly lose their lives....
Ladies and gentlemen... let this Fake christian not fool you about the real word of God... it speaks in the last book of the bible about people in the comming times that will proclaim certain things and lead many astray... false prophets, workers of satan himself... many will use things like this, attempting to force the word of God to work their own will... but do not listen to this...
and about the whole muslim/christian extremist thing... yeah everyone has their faults... i dont believe in Alla and the muslism religion, but im not going to kill any of them, nor will i hate any muslim... and yes many people who say they are christians are corrupt, becuase they dont know christ personally... let this be a message to everyone... this video is wrong... she is a heartless body of thoughts and opinions, and she has no regard for the sacrfice that people give...
and about the homosexual thing.... REAL christians DO NOT hate Homosexual people... in the bible it says that homosexuality is an abomination... i believe the bible... again it also says to love your neighbour... meaning everyone in existence... many false prophets show their hate for anyone else who doesnt beleive.... i express my love for everyone, in any way i can, including homosexuals... i have a friend who was a homo, but now is a christian.... we codemn the sin they commit, but NOT the person...
these are only my ideas and views....
im not perfect i can only inform you all about what my heart tells me...
I am sorry if i have offended anyone...
Peace out...
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CopyCat
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Posted by: CopyCat on the 23rd 2006f Apr @ 03:35 |
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| I have to question the logic of having some all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes. |
Funbags
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Posted by: Funbags on the 23rd 2006f Apr @ 04:07 |
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I have to question the logic of having some all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes. |
Me too.
This is one of the reasons that I avoid religious discussions and remain agnostic. This woman’s beliefs, no matter how deluded, are based on her interpretation of the bible and the word of her God. There is no reason that she should not believe what she does as each major religion has based its ethos on the same book and yet are so different in their understanding of it. Her actions should be branded morally wrong but her beliefs should not be questioned, especially by those who believe what their padre, preacher, priest, rabbi or sheikh tells them on a Sunday morning. |
CopyCat
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Posted by: CopyCat on the 23rd 2006f Apr @ 04:21 |
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| For most people I think, religion is nothing more than a substitute for thinking things out... The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one... I just don't think theres some guy up there in the Clouds with a big book, who knows if you've been bad or good and would even care about any of it... Well, it just seems pretty damn foolish to me. |
Bram
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Posted by: Bram on the 23rd 2006f Apr @ 05:05 |
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It is pretty damn foolish.
I mean, why believe in something that was made up?
and as for the bible, you can interpret it any way you like. just look at the comment of 'fade arc'
he says that the bible says that Gay people are an abomination,Buuuuut you should love your neighbour.
I'm sorry for being a bit insensitive but religion is Bogus.
I'm not against religion because it's very important in the lives of many. But I do think that it's naive to live the way of someone who possible never even excisted. |
Ditschi
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Posted by: Ditschi on the 23rd 2006f Apr @ 05:19 |
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OMFG @ ALL:
It's the fcking US, so --> WAYNE!
Stupidity's greatest fellows are the Americans  |
mz_nooza
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Posted by: mz_nooza on the 23rd 2006f Apr @ 05:48 |
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How 'bout we call it the behaviour of "animals" then kiddo? I'm sorry if your panties get a little tight when nature is introduced in a discussion so I'll explain it in a more simple juvenile fashion.
There is no universally accepted term for what we call people who prefer fat chicks, black chicks etc(chubbychaser?) but we do for people who like those of the opposite sex. Gay. We label people who prefer children pedophiles because numerous studies show the horrible effects it has on children and society(trauma begats trauma etc.) and it should therfore be condemned because it is proven to be wrong and harmful. However, 2 consenting adult males getting it on has never(this is true)ever by any study in history has been proven to be any more or less emotionally, physically or psychologically damaging to anyone than say, a guy who likes bitches. Now, we bring "animals into the dscussion because Christianity's primary argument against homosexuality(outside of God's booming voice) is that it's only function is for procreation and not pleasure and established churches(Catholicism, Mormonism etc.) cite the biology of human's and(you guessed it)animals in order to explain this. Do you now understand why Christian's have no basis for their homophobia? Pull your head out of your ass and think about it for a few seconds.... |
Calm down. Your same argument can be used to defend incest by the way. |
Funbags
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Posted by: Funbags on the 23rd 2006f Apr @ 05:54 |
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It is pretty damn foolish.
I mean, why believe in something that was made up?
and as for the bible, you can interpret it any way you like. just look at the comment of 'fade arc'
he says that the bible says that Gay people are an abomination,Buuuuut you should love your neighbour.
I'm sorry for being a bit insensitive but religion is Bogus.
I'm not against religion because it's very important in the lives of many. But I do think that it's naive to live the way of someone who possible never even excisted. |
You hit the nail on the head. Beliefs are very important to everybody and religion is something to admire in all those that have found it. My mother in law has lost her husband, son and daughter (my wife). That would fuck most people up royally but because she believes that they are in a place that she will eventually be herself, she has been able to carry on with her life.
Everybody believes in something. Whether it be God, aliens or like me, good friends, helping people where I can and having a few pints on a Friday night to celebrate another week of life. Its all good.
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OMFG @ ALL:
It's the fcking US, so --> WAYNE!
Stupidity's greatest fellows are the Americans |
After that comment I think you need to look closer to home to find stupidity. |
Buffalo
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Posted by: Buffalo on the 23rd 2006f Apr @ 05:58 |
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Fade_Arcanum,you say your friend wos Gay and now is Christian? dos that mean he is gay no more,but str8 from no on?
LOL This is geting realy funny
Ah and sorry for my bad english :P |
mz_nooza
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Posted by: mz_nooza on the 23rd 2006f Apr @ 06:16 |
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How 'bout we call it the behaviour of "animals" then kiddo? I'm sorry if your panties get a little tight when nature is introduced in a discussion so I'll explain it in a more simple juvenile fashion.
There is no universally accepted term for what we call people who prefer fat chicks, black chicks etc(chubbychaser?) but we do for people who like those of the opposite sex. Gay. We label people who prefer children pedophiles because numerous studies show the horrible effects it has on children and society(trauma begats trauma etc.) and it should therfore be condemned because it is proven to be wrong and harmful. However, 2 consenting adult males getting it on has never(this is true)ever by any study in history has been proven to be any more or less emotionally, physically or psychologically damaging to anyone than say, a guy who likes bitches. Now, we bring "animals into the dscussion because Christianity's primary argument against homosexuality(outside of God's booming voice) is that it's only function is for procreation and not pleasure and established churches(Catholicism, Mormonism etc.) cite the biology of human's and(you guessed it)animals in order to explain this. Do you now understand why Christian's have no basis for their homophobia? Pull your head out of your ass and think about it for a few seconds.... |
BTW i'm not interested in a debate. If you want to defend morality using the behaviour of monkeys, knock yourself out. just hope you don't mind people jerking off on the bus and eating there own feces in public. Just kidding.
BTW I am no fan of the church's biological arguments. |
Buffalo
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Posted by: Buffalo on the 23rd 2006f Apr @ 06:32 |
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"jerking off on the bus"
Ahahahaha keep it up guys!! ROFLMAO |
encinias
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Posted by: encinias on the 23rd 2006f Apr @ 07:14 |
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| First of all if she wants to be all christian and everything... What ever happend to "God is good all the time" and our god is not a vengefull god. and Jesus died on the cross so that our sins may be forgiven. and second I hope she fuckn dies so I may have the opportunity to piss on her grave. |
Hiddeny
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Posted by: Hiddeny on the 23rd 2006f Apr @ 16:35 |
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| She just wanted to be on the news and decided to call for attention this way. "Mommy, mommy, turn the TV on. I am on the news today! Do I look pretty? Do you feel proud of me? I want to marry Michael Crook! I am as bright as him." |
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Posted by: dedicednu on the 23rd 2006f Apr @ 16:48 |
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A lot of states are starting to ban these guys from protesting at funerals. The sect even said they would follow those laws. About time.
Let them hold all of the signs they want and scream what they want. I doubt they're changing a lot of minds by screaming hate. |
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Posted by: skeet_da_man on the 23rd 2006f Apr @ 19:45 |
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| didnt read all the comments, this may have been said before, but she is extremely closed minded. i love how she assumes everyone is the same religion as her. her mind is polluted with this bullshit and she should be imprisoned. or shot in the face, whichever is cheaper. however to everyone else, you say "thats only in the US". but look, did you notice how everyone here finds it offensive and absurd?? Americans look down on this too. maybe insane people are more outspoken in the USA but there are extremists everywhere. |
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Posted by: pottsville on the 23rd 2006f Apr @ 19:55 |
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| I could NOT STAND to listen to the entire video feed....people such as this witch need to be put on a ship and sent to an exotic island EXCEPT that on their way for the vacation of their life, we, the PATRIOTIC AMERICANS should have that ship sunk and do it in SHARK INFESTED WATER....FAR AWAY FROM ANT LAND....let these "know it all"s suffer more than any American soldier has! I wonder what that bitch has to say about the Vietnam Veterans which I am one....I KNOW WE WOULD HAVE HER SHOT AS A TRAITOR!!!! DEATH to antone that believes such as THIS 'one(?)"!! GOD BLESS AMERICA!!! |
Jango
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Posted by: Jango on the 23rd 2006f Apr @ 21:11 |
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BTW i'm not interested in a debate. If you want to defend morality using the behaviour of monkeys, knock yourself out. just hope you don't mind people jerking off on the bus and eating there own feces in public. Just kidding.
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"Jerking off in the bus????""""" LOL 
C'mon guys, end your feud. Homosexuality is a choice, you can change it, as you change any other preference in your life (some years ago I loved Hockey, ask me now). Anyway, there's a psychotic conduct in some (and I mean some) homosexuals, some of them are deluded and think that they're women (or men, in the case of girls). That is clearly a mental disorder. you can have any preference you want, but you cannot deny your gender, nor change it. And if we look nature, monkeys and other animals may have homosexual conducts but, have you ever seen a male monkey who thinks he's a female?.
The woman in the video.
That's why I hate religion. Wonder what God thinks of what we do in his name? |
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Posted by: Nemesis80 on the 23rd 2006f Apr @ 22:57 |
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"the fac that you use religion to justify your hatred that way, is frankly,..it's mind numbing..."
Wait! Why did the war first started again? please tell me I have a blank |
JAB_CT
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Posted by: JAB_CT on the 23rd 2006f Apr @ 23:12 |
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FREAKSHOWS OF LIFE!!! ALL 100 OF THEM!!!
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Sonja
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Posted by: Sonja on the 24th 2006f Apr @ 01:34 |
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It is people like this that make me ashamed of my faith at times. Because it is these people that speak the loudest and get the most attention in media, and in daily life. This makes me cringe when I see someone staring at the cross around my neck, and reluctant to admit to being born again. I would love to sit down with this woman and show her the verses in the Bible that she's overlooking. Like "Love thy neighbor as thyself." And Jesus explains that this means EVERYONE. I have many homosexual and bisexual friends. I myself used to be bisexual (yes, sexuality is a choice. I chose to be bisexual, and chose to become straight). I think no less of them for that, and, in fact, love them the same. I have many friends who are pagan, Jewish, Catholic, what have you. I still love them all. And when we butt heads, I still love them. That is what the love of Jesus has done for me. The problem with these people is that they don't show that love. What they have to say is "If you do this, you're going to hell. If you don't do this our way, you're going to hell." That is absurd.
I found it especially amusing when she was asked what her sins were, and she refused to answer. Perhaps she missed the verse in the Bible that clearly states, "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God." Don't tell me you're perfect people, out to warn your neighbors, for Jesus also taught to help your neighbor through love, not hate.
I ask that everyone please disregard this woman's view on Christianity. I'm not saying that my view is the only one, but I'm saying that I have a Bible in hand, and that I know the promises of God. Jesus made it very easy to make it into Heaven. Accept that He is the son of God, and receive the love He has shown and distributed, and reciprocate that. Admit that you have your sins (we all do) and apologize. THAT'S IT!! You don't have to live this assnine life where you do nothing but praise God all day, and sing Hallelujia for no particular reason. Christians still sin, and make mistakes just like anyone. But when you know the love of Jesus, and when you feel the joy in your heart, it's that joy that propells you to love, and to want to draw closer to God, and to spread His word. This church seems to spread His word based on hate.
I pray that someone finds this church and sits them down to explain the Bible. To point out what they seemed to have missed (like the New Testament). And I pray that people who want to believe this open their Bibles to all the verses of love, and reciprocate that.
God Bless you ALL. |
CopyCat
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Posted by: CopyCat on the 24th 2006f Apr @ 02:05 |
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| Heah Sonja, You know there are a lot of gods out there to pick from.. Have ever thought that maybe if you have picked the wrong one,,, Every time you go to this wrong church, your just making god madder and madder... lol. |
Sonja
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Posted by: Sonja on the 24th 2006f Apr @ 02:10 |
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| I've thought about it, CopyCat. But I've also prayed about it. And God has made it quite clear to me that this is right where I need to be. And I'm doing all I can to please Him, but I know that I still commit sins daily. But I repent and work on my sins in an attempt to get to a point where I don't stumble. But like I said, "All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God." |
Bram
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Posted by: Bram on the 24th 2006f Apr @ 02:57 |
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| so you live for a fable and not for yourself? |
xpwdmosh..
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Posted by: xpwdmoshx on the 24th 2006f Apr @ 04:52 |
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| hahahaha fuck i love that comment near the start while shes talking ... the interviewer goes .. "your obviously a nut" ... hahaha oh god ..... she isnt serious is she? this HAS to be a joke hahahaha |
Sonja
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Posted by: Sonja on the 24th 2006f Apr @ 08:29 |
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Let's assume for a moment, Bram, that you believe what I do.
God wanted a family, and so created my EXISTENCE purely for the purpose of feeling His love, and to worship Him. Then sent His only true son to die and burn in hell for three days that I would never have to feel that pain and suffering, so that I could attain the Kingdom of Heaven. Wouldn't you feel like you owed your life to the one who created and saved it? I know I do |
Tyrfingr
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Posted by: Tyrfingr on the 24th 2006f Apr @ 09:18 |
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| Quote: | On 24-04-06 14:29 Sonja wrote:
Let's assume for a moment, Bram, that you believe what I do.
God wanted a family, and so created my EXISTENCE purely for the purpose of feeling His love, and to worship Him. Then sent His only true son to die and burn in hell for three days that I would never have to feel that pain and suffering, so that I could attain the Kingdom of Heaven. Wouldn't you feel like you owed your life to the one who created and saved it? I know I do |
Taking the step out of the dark ages was just something that happened to other people right ? |
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Posted by: herbtree on the 24th 2006f Apr @ 09:24 |
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You actually beleive in Jesus in this day and age.??
Dont mean to offend anyone but the bible was written to control people.
The Bible has been re-written about 10 times to fit in with different laws and counrties of the time.
Let me ask you this....
Do you beleive in Adam and Eve and the talking snake, miracles like turning the see into wine etc ( i could go on) ?
Then you are as mad as this bint in the vid.
Religion has caused more death, war and suffereing than any other thing on this planet.
Religion is outdated.
If you want to beleive in something, beleive in your fellow man etc. |
xpwdmosh..
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Posted by: xpwdmoshx on the 24th 2006f Apr @ 11:01 |
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| herb, you are so fucking right. |
Sonja
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Posted by: Sonja on the 24th 2006f Apr @ 13:05 |
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There's a quote, though I forget who said it, that states "More people have been killed in the name of God, than by any other name." Think the Crusades. And I'm fully aware of that. Religion is something that people can use as an excuse to manipulate, lie and control. I'm fully aware of how many times the Bible has been rewritten, which is why I remain skeptical about some of the passages in there. But I do believe that Jesus died on the cross for me. And I do believe in Adam and Eve. Who are you to say that the God who created life could not turn water to wine? And if religion is so outdated, then why do over 50 million people claim to be born again? The fact remains that Christianity is still one of the major religions of the world, and religion itself is prominant in EVERY society, Christianity or not. Religion will never be outdated.
The fact remains that there are Christians out there that enjoy the love they receive from God, and the love they can reciprocate to other people. Not all Christians hate as much as the people in this video clip do. I know that people despise me for what I believe, but I also know that it's people like the ones on the screen, protesting this and that, preaching fire and brimstone, and those that use religion as a justification for immoral actions, that ruin it for the rest of us. I'm not going to stand on the street corner and tell you that you're going to hell, and I would never EVER thank God for the death of anyone.
The problem with most people is that they take what the Bible says too litterally. They forget that it was written for a society over 4000 years ago, that was forced to believe through fear. The whole, "If you do this, you will be cut off from your people and put to death" kick, was a scare tactic. It's the kind of thing that's been implimented by MANY religions in countries that use it to maintain control over a population. In this day in age, we don't need that control. But we do need that love. This isn't about hating someone who doesn't believe what you do. I know that probably out of all the commenters on this page, and on this website, maybe a small handful of you agree with me. Maybe none at all. And that's fine. I'm aware that not everyone believes what I do. But I'm not going to parade a bunch of signs around telling you that you're going to hell for not obeying my God.
Religion is not dead. But the manipulation of religion should be. |
Bram
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Posted by: Bram on the 24th 2006f Apr @ 13:55 |
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| Quote: | On 24-04-06 14:29 Sonja wrote:
Let's assume for a moment, Bram, that you believe what I do.
God wanted a family, and so created my EXISTENCE purely for the purpose of feeling His love, and to worship Him. Then sent His only true son to die and burn in hell for three days that I would never have to feel that pain and suffering, so that I could attain the Kingdom of Heaven. Wouldn't you feel like you owed your life to the one who created and saved it? I know I do |
No Sonja, I wouldn't.
And I will not ever believe like you do because I'm not that naive to live my life by the rules of a made up story
finally I want to point out that I don't have kind of hate feelings against relegion and people should be allowed to make their own choices wrong or right. |
Sonja
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Posted by: Sonja on the 24th 2006f Apr @ 14:16 |
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First of all: I was unaware that being naive enough to live by the law of God was something to be mocked by people that don't have hate feelings against religions (bit self contradiction much?).
Second of all: I never said you weren't allowed to make your own choices. Obviously you didn't read my assumption. I'm aware you don't believe what I do, that isn't the point. The point was to try to help you understand why I believe what I do. As I stated before, I realize that not everyone believes what I do, and that I'm fine with that. |
Bram
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Posted by: Bram on the 24th 2006f Apr @ 14:47 |
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| Quote: | On 24-04-06 20:16 Sonja wrote:
First of all: I was unaware that being naive enough to live by the law of God was something to be mocked by people that don't have hate feelings against religions (bit self contradiction much?)
Second of all: I never said you weren't allowed to make your own choices. Obviously you didn't read my assumption. I'm aware you don't believe what I do, that isn't the point. The point was to try to help you understand why I believe what I do. As I stated before, I realize that not everyone believes what I do, and that I'm fine with that. |
First point: your are not mocked in any form what so ever. At least not by me.
Second point: I know you never said anything about that.but I just want to be ahead of the people that will make comments that are not true(happened before on YDM, and in many different ways)
I DO understand your point, Honoustly. I just can't place myself in the position you put me in your Example
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Sonja
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Posted by: Sonja on the 24th 2006f Apr @ 15:01 |
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| Alright, that's understandable. No hard feelings, then? |
Bram
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Posted by: Bram on the 24th 2006f Apr @ 15:07 |
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No hard feelings at all miss Sonja
Btw: it's always nice to see when someone truly believes in what he/she stands for. even though I might not agree or not think the same.
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Sonja
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Posted by: Sonja on the 24th 2006f Apr @ 16:29 |
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| It's also nice to see someone who doesn't use degrading tactics to make a point. Thank you, Bram, for your show of kindness. I just wanted you to know that it didn't go unappreciated. |
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Posted by: comptonlux on the 24th 2006f Apr @ 22:27 |
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| This bitch should be shot I dont fuckin care anymore god fuck these bitches our friends get killed and then I gotta hear this bullshit fuck Ill do it myself. |
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Posted by: Dapunisher4 on the 24th 2006f Apr @ 23:54 |
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Sonja I completely agree with everything you are saying..
the only thing that makes it so hard to show what we (what you have already said) believe...is that people take the words of the Bible or even points we make from the Bible and slur them into something that they are not.
people focus way too much on how controlling they think religion and christianity is(which it is not at all) and dont focus on all the love that God has for us and wants us to show to others.
it is so hard to get people to understand that.
THis lady is a perfect example | |
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