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Posted by: Scottjpw on the 23rd 2006f June 2006 | Comments: (84) | Make Favorite


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Posted by: Fulgore on the 23rd 2006f Jun @ 04:27  View profile Quote comment
Answer those questions mr bush

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Posted by: CopyCat on the 23rd 2006f Jun @ 04:43  View profile Quote comment
Hell I love these, we'll get to read and see who all the stupid people are now... lmfao !!!

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Posted by: herbtree on the 23rd 2006f Jun @ 04:58  View profile Quote comment
I am not one to go for conspiracies.
Until they release all the camera footage, it remains very dodgy to say the least.
All those cameras, every inch covered and no footage?

= a conspiracy

The truth must stink bad so so bad to the darkest depths of lies and despair.
Bush will go to hell.

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Posted by: finnishguy on the 23rd 2006f Jun @ 04:59  View profile Quote comment
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On 23-06-06 13:43 CopyCat wrote:
Hell I love these, we'll get to read and see who all the stupid people are now... lmfao !!!


Do you think that itīs more clever just to listen to what a government tells you then?

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Posted by: julyda4th on the 23rd 2006f Jun @ 05:11  View profile Quote comment
its incredible a majority of the americans sit back and let their govt do all the thinkin' for them.... its gonna take a CIA director's auto-bio to wake em up...

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Posted by: dark_lord on the 23rd 2006f Jun @ 05:27  View profile Quote comment
yeah thats right I'ts terrible they keep something secret for the whole world this could be a giant cover up thats terrible

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Posted by: herbtree on the 23rd 2006f Jun @ 05:32  View profile Quote comment
it is a giant cover up
I bet the truth wont come out for like 100 years and by then obviusly everyone involved will be six feet under, including ourselves.
I predict that by that time tho, the world will be delved highly in the great nasty world war 3 that america started whuile foolishly trying to prevent it.

The future is bleak and it certainly isnt orange, more like dark and black like the begining of terminator - thats what the future looks like and its all the fault of the bush administration.

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Posted by: wat_ on the 23rd 2006f Jun @ 05:47  View profile Quote comment
seen the whole program b4 and several others like it.... but i think some ppl wont be convinced by this program or any other like it as their minds are already made up who is always at fault.....its the ppl they hate ofcourse...the non-whites.

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Posted by: Oddjob on the 23rd 2006f Jun @ 06:25  View profile Quote comment
I'm not one for conspiracies either but where are the other photos from survellance cameras? In the UK you are caught on CCTV on average 300 time a day. So why did we only get about 3 frames that luckily/unluckily didn't show what impacted the building, in one of the most important government buildings in the world? According to www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/pent agon.htm 24,000 people work in The Pentagon. They should all start theiving the computers and stuff, cos there ain't no cameras to catch them!!

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Posted by: herbtree on the 23rd 2006f Jun @ 06:37  View profile Quote comment
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On 23-06-06 15:25 Oddjob wrote:
. They should all start theiving the computers and stuff, cos there ain't no cameras to catch them!!


lol yeah thats true man, the sort of question that should be directed to george bush, ' why do you only have one cctv camera at the pentagon'

I suppose the USA public believe what the government says;

1. because they dont want to belive the horrific truth
2. they think that if you dont beleive the government you are un-american and un-patriotic.

Its like my old gran who thinks that every policeman is a law obiding good citizen when the truth or reality is far from that.

I would love to go to the states just to ask the average jo on the street what their idea is on 9/11, I am sure most will just support the goverment.

jeeeez, i mean the americans still belive Saddam and Hitler were responsible for 9/11, just brainwashed insular fools.

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Posted by: H_TOWN_MEX on the 23rd 2006f Jun @ 07:09  View profile Quote comment
WE GOT OWNED!!! ..........OH WAIT THIS AINT GOOD...

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Posted by: CopyCat on the 23rd 2006f Jun @ 07:31  View profile Quote comment
Its just amazing how much you people from other Countries seem to know about America... Our politics, current events, our people and conspiracy theories... lol.. Dose nothing ever happen in your own Countries for you guys to go argue about... It must be boring as hell over there... lol.. Oh well, you guys keep it up... This shit is funny as hell to me...

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Posted by: herbtree on the 23rd 2006f Jun @ 07:49  View profile Quote comment
We know more than you because your media does not report on half the stories that we see in the UK.

Its american propoganda, come on man, even you should know that.

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Posted by: madweekender on the 23rd 2006f Jun @ 07:53  View profile Quote comment
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On 23-06-06 16:31 CopyCat wrote:
Its just amazing how much you people from other Countries seem to know about America... Our politics, current events, our people and conspiracy theories... lol.. Dose nothing ever happen in your own Countries for you guys to go argue about... It must be boring as hell over there... lol.. Oh well, you guys keep it up... This shit is funny as hell to me...

yeah im sure its funny as hell for all those families who lost loved ones. just so bush could follow in his daddies footsteps and go get that nasty man saddam just coz he wasnt gonna sell you stupid ass yanks any more oil. ever heard of the petro dollar? its what all oil is sold in dirty dollars but saddam was changing all that and was gonna start selling in euros and as one of the biggest suppliers of USA oil Bush just couldnt let it happen. But how to go to war with a country that has done nothing remotely aggressive towards you?
Do something aggressive to yourself and blame ALL MUSLIMS.
If you believe in god then rest in the knowledge that bush will go to hell, but if your perfectly sane then surely something must be done to stop the world leaders railroading us into another war. ppl believe that we cant do anything but there is millions of like minded ppl lets stop demonstrating and take proper action against these greedy piss poor excuses for humans.

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Posted by: xeno on the 23rd 2006f Jun @ 08:20  View profile Quote comment
I want proof that a plane hit the pentagon. Not just a hole with debris everywhere. And dont tell me that the plane disintegrated when it hit the building, its impossible for a plane moving at that speed hitting that type of material.
Many people think a missile that was launched by us to take out a plane went off course and crashed into the Pentagon. I dont think the government is that stupid. I think a missile did hit the building but for different reasons. Its the perfect alibi. Test out something that couldnt have been tested in normal circumstances but because of these horrific attacks, you can just blame the terrorists.
Im not a conspiracy theorists, but I do have a brain and I can examine pictures and facts, I look at the evidence presented to me. Why dont you do the same?

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Posted by: herbtree on the 23rd 2006f Jun @ 08:43  View profile Quote comment
I want proof aswell

How easy is it to release the other videos that will/will not show us a plane.

Very simple, simple task - release the other footage.

Simple like the american public that beleive everything bush says.


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Posted by: H_TOWN_MEX on the 23rd 2006f Jun @ 08:46  View profile Quote comment
WELL THIS SEEMS VERY CONVENCING... BUT THEN AGAIN EVEN IF THE GOVERNMENT WAS TELLING THE TRUE MOST OF THE PEOPLE WOULDNT BELIEVE IT

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Posted by: gaboy on the 23rd 2006f Jun @ 09:55  View profile Quote comment
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On 23-06-06 17:43 herbtree wrote:

Simple like the american public that beleive everything bush says.



Who told you that bullshit? It's them damn white rednecks that put this dude in power. People like Copy Cat is the reason why shit like this happened.

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Posted by: Bram on the 23rd 2006f Jun @ 10:00  View profile Quote comment
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On 23-06-06 18:55 gaboy wrote:
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Copy Cat is the reason why shit like this happened.



Riiiiight

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Posted by: Fulgore on the 23rd 2006f Jun @ 10:07  View profile Quote comment
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On 23-06-06 16:31 CopyCat wrote:
Its just amazing how much you people from other Countries seem to know about America... Our politics, current events, our people and conspiracy theories... lol.. Dose nothing ever happen in your own Countries for you guys to go argue about... It must be boring as hell over there... lol.. Oh well, you guys keep it up... This shit is funny as hell to me...


And there goes the typical american ignorance of the world around them, if they close their eyes tight enough bad things will disappear right? ^^

Wake up, if your government cant answer simple questions on a subject of this magnitude, somethings wrong... Or are you gona just sit there make a crap joke and turn a blind eye to whats infront of your face?


No cameras / videos were confiscated from the twin towers crash and full videos were released of the incident, why not @ the pentagon?

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Posted by: SoulTaker on the 23rd 2006f Jun @ 10:16  View profile Quote comment
its the government that set this whole thing up. the government does all sort of these thing, its seen all over history, like alien conspiracy, bigfoot, and pearl harbor. , they figured that if were gona go to war, might say it was terrorists so that americans would hate them. but i dont know how saddam connects to this event

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Posted by: scott974 on the 23rd 2006f Jun @ 10:23  View profile Quote comment
We all know politicians are corrupt scumbags, but tell me what can we do. It comes down to power and that scumbag Bush has it. We all know he stole it, with the help of his daddy and high powered big business, but he has it nonetheless.

Please offer your ideas on how to wrest it away, because most of us want him out.

Also, you can offer your insight on how to get the FBI, CIA, or MI5, or FSB, or any security agency to give up the truth to the public.

You guys sound like you have the knowledge of the universe at your fingertips on how to accomplish this. Please, share it with us all.

I'm sure you all have the ears of Blair, McAleese, Chirac, Putin, Kohler, etc. Please be so kind as to enlighten us on how it is you control your leaders.

The fact is, you don't. So it comes down to this... you're lucky if you get a representative in government that isnt corrupt, but in the end, we are all getting constantly screwed by our governments, whether you know it or not. Cheers

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Posted by: casperloho on the 23rd 2006f Jun @ 11:07  View profile Quote comment
I hear what all of you are saying, and I don't disagree with it, but tell me what happened to the plane and the people who were on the plane that supposedly crashed into the pentagon?

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Posted by: Tyrfingr on the 23rd 2006f Jun @ 12:11  View profile Quote comment
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On 23-06-06 19:23 scott974 wrote:
We all know politicians are corrupt scumbags, but tell me what can we do. It comes down to power and that scumbag Bush has it. We all know he stole it, with the help of his daddy and high powered big business, but he has it nonetheless.

Please offer your ideas on how to wrest it away, because most of us want him out.

Also, you can offer your insight on how to get the FBI, CIA, or MI5, or FSB, or any security agency to give up the truth to the public.

You guys sound like you have the knowledge of the universe at your fingertips on how to accomplish this. Please, share it with us all.

I'm sure you all have the ears of Blair, McAleese, Chirac, Putin, Kohler, etc. Please be so kind as to enlighten us on how it is you control your leaders.

The fact is, you don't. So it comes down to this... you're lucky if you get a representative in government that isnt corrupt, but in the end, we are all getting constantly screwed by our governments, whether you know it or not. Cheers


That's what i've been saying over here too... We're fucked cause of lack of proper people in charge. As a small person in a "democratic" country, the only option one has is to vote for a party you allready know is full of shit, and you've got the freedom to complain. That's it...

I think this man put it best in few words.

This is the bitterest pain among men, to have much knowledge but no power. – Herodotus, 30 B.C.

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Posted by: juanandres on the 23rd 2006f Jun @ 12:49  View profile Quote comment
Fulgory your an America hating idiot. We are like a new pair of shoes, everyone wants to step on them. Don't be jealous that no one cares about your insignificant country. At least we have the balls to do something about it. Yes Bush made some big mistakes in the war but it is really easy to be a monday morning quarter back. Scott974 stop crying like a little bitch. You no idea, go to my website, flip-floppn' puppet lost! You can't tell me that all you foreigners now what you government is up to. It's time we take off the hand cuffs at let our soldgiers kick ass and get out of that hell hole. And herbtree we have the worst LIBERAL media in the world they side with the enemy, if they had a smoking gun, you idiot, they would show it.

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Posted by: ashash on the 23rd 2006f Jun @ 12:53  View profile Quote comment
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On 23-06-06 16:31 CopyCat wrote:
Its just amazing how much you people from other Countries seem to know about America... Our politics, current events, our people and conspiracy theories... lol.. Dose nothing ever happen in your own Countries for you guys to go argue about... It must be boring as hell over there... lol.. Oh well, you guys keep it up... This shit is funny as hell to me...


Hello CopyCat,

Thru several posts in several movies we all got to see how you are and how you think. And truth is, you are one good piece of American Ignorance. To use proper english, you are a dumb ass, who, aparently wants to say dumb for eternity.

Now, get your tiny brain working, go investigate some facts about 9/11 and other stuff. Use the internet you like using so much to post crap about your own country, and laugh about it.

It's not funny you know. Your shity country invaded 2 countrys just cause they could. Your shity country, in the last 3 attacks you had, tried to get you to vote for shit to take away your basic freedom, such as the Patriot act. But you don't see that? Of course not, you guys DONT READ A DAMN THING!!

And you are surprised that people in foreign countrys know more about America that you do? I say: WAKE UP!

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Posted by: juanandres on the 23rd 2006f Jun @ 12:59  View profile Quote comment
ashash "the hater", name 1 person who has suffered from the patriot act. Spelling and grammer doesn't diminish an arguement. You're a socialist scumbag.

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Posted by: Tyrfingr on the 23rd 2006f Jun @ 13:08  View profile Quote comment
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Hello CopyCat,

Thru several posts in several movies we all got to see how you are and how you think. And truth is, you are one good piece of American Ignorance. To use proper english, you are a dumb ass, who, aparently wants to say dumb for eternity.

Now, get your tiny brain working, go investigate some facts about 9/11 and other stuff. Use the internet you like using so much to post crap about your own country, and laugh about it.

It's not funny you know. Your shity country invaded 2 countrys just cause they could. Your shity country, in the last 3 attacks you had, tried to get you to vote for shit to take away your basic freedom, such as the Patriot act. But you don't see that? Of course not, you guys DONT READ A DAMN THING!!

And you are surprised that people in foreign countrys know more about America that you do? I say: WAKE UP!


Yeah i bet you've been around this site for several years, just to draw up a psycological profiles of people out of their comments... Haven't you grasped the fact that, what people comment on here isnt always serious ?. Besides, when a person without power and political influence can just sit in the backseat and watch while the leaders are running their country right into a ditch... There's not much else one can do than to pull a few jokes, and critisize your goverment and the people in it to vent your frustrations... It's the one thing that people can do... It is the people that DONT do these things, that you should aim your attention to.


Hey and mitch, just as a sidenote. Things do happen over here mate, it's just that those things dont get international attention. If i mentioned something that happened here in sweden 95% wouldnt know or give a shit about it.

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Posted by: CopyCat on the 23rd 2006f Jun @ 13:16  View profile Quote comment
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Who told you that bullshit? It's them damn white rednecks that put this dude in power. People like Copy Cat is the reason why shit like this happened.

Well, I am a white redneck and I did vote for him... lol...
[quote] ashash on the 23rd of Jun @ 21:53

Hello ashash

I can tell you put a lot thought and time into your comment, but I'm sorry I just don't agee with you... Wait a second, I can't stop laughing !!! Oh hell I'm not going to say anything, its more fun to just sit back and watch... Thank you for your entertaining comments...

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Posted by: Shock14 on the 23rd 2006f Jun @ 13:20  View profile Quote comment
quit being dumbasses! you're all too busy shifting blame and arguing about it's bush's fault or saddam's or you're stupid.


THE TRUTH IS THERE WAS A BOMB ON THE PLANE. RIGHT BEFORE THE PLANE HIT THE PENTAGON THE BOMB EXPLODED, DISSENTEGRATING THE PLANE, THE PENTAGON DIDN'T TOUCH THE PLANE AT ALL. A BIG BOMB BLEW IT TO HIGH HELL. IT'S NOT HARD!

quit trying to figure out who's fault it is, because if you focused on all the evidence you'd see a bomb explosion. it got huge because of the fuel, the stool and crap were probably places there after the explosion by some people maybe looking through blueprints of the pentagon and stuff. either that or fox photoshopped it for attention.

WE WILL NEVER KNOW WHO'S FAULT IT IS. NOBODY WILL TELL US. WE DON'T KNOW EVEN 1/5th OF THE INFORMATION ABOUT 9/11 BUT WE CAN EASILY SEE WHAT HAPPENED. QUIT THE NAMECALLING AND LOOK!!!!!

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Posted by: gaboy on the 23rd 2006f Jun @ 13:28  View profile Quote comment
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Riiiiight


Bram i know you left school in the 5th grade, but in case you didnt see it ill say it again. " PEOPLE LIKE Copy Cat is the reason why shit like this happened.

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Posted by: Bram on the 23rd 2006f Jun @ 13:30  View profile Quote comment
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On 23-06-06 22:28 gaboy wrote:
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Bram i know you left school in the 5th grade, but in case you didnt see it ill say it again. " PEOPLE LIKE Copy Cat is the reason why shit like this happened.


Instead of explaining your comment you just repeat your dumn reaction again. and I left school in the 5th grade ?!

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Posted by: Tyrfingr on the 23rd 2006f Jun @ 13:36  View profile Quote comment
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On 23-06-06 22:20 Shock14 wrote:
quit being dumbasses! you're all too busy shifting blame and arguing about it's bush's fault or saddam's or you're stupid.


THE TRUTH IS THERE WAS A BOMB ON THE PLANE. RIGHT BEFORE THE PLANE HIT THE PENTAGON THE BOMB EXPLODED, DISSENTEGRATING THE PLANE, THE PENTAGON DIDN'T TOUCH THE PLANE AT ALL. A BIG BOMB BLEW IT TO HIGH HELL. IT'S NOT HARD!

quit trying to figure out who's fault it is, because if you focused on all the evidence you'd see a bomb explosion. it got huge because of the fuel, the stool and crap were probably places there after the explosion by some people maybe looking through blueprints of the pentagon and stuff. either that or fox photoshopped it for attention.

WE WILL NEVER KNOW WHO'S FAULT IT IS. NOBODY WILL TELL US. WE DON'T KNOW EVEN 1/5th OF THE INFORMATION ABOUT 9/11 BUT WE CAN EASILY SEE WHAT HAPPENED. QUIT THE NAMECALLING AND LOOK!!!!!


And who the fuck are you to tell people to quit discussing matters of interest ?, if you have a personal problem with the fact that people doesnt see everything your way, then the choice is simple. Stay out and quit reading the comments it's just as simple as that.

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Posted by: Bram on the 23rd 2006f Jun @ 13:40  View profile Quote comment
I wish that a forum will soon be made!
make up teams and then debate about stuff like this

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Posted by: ashash on the 23rd 2006f Jun @ 14:04  View profile Quote comment
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On 23-06-06 22:16 CopyCat wrote:
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Well, I am a white redneck and I did vote for him... lol...
[quote] ashash on the 23rd of Jun @ 21:53

Hello ashash

I can tell you put a lot thought and time into your comment, but I'm sorry I just don't agee with you... Wait a second, I can't stop laughing !!! Oh hell I'm not going to say anything, its more fun to just sit back and watch... Thank you for your entertaining comments...


Yes laugh all you want, you silly rat. Because I dont even live there in the US. So, when you finally stop laughing, and realize the reality of things, I'll be laughing even harder.

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Posted by: GorgeousGal on the 23rd 2006f Jun @ 14:06  View profile Quote comment
[quote]On 23-06-06 22:20 Shock14 wrote:

THE TRUTH IS THERE WAS A BOMB ON THE PLANE. RIGHT BEFORE THE PLANE HIT THE PENTAGON THE BOMB EXPLODED, DISSENTEGRATING THE PLANE, THE PENTAGON DIDN'T TOUCH THE PLANE AT ALL. A BIG BOMB BLEW IT TO HIGH HELL. IT'S NOT HARD!

ROFL If you think that is how it went then your sadly mistaken... Even if there had been explosives on the plane, parts would have been blown out everywhere. Also there is no way the top of the pentagon would stay in that good of shape for the amount of explosives to blow up a boeing 757. If that type of plane even flew over the highway right beside the pentagon...don't you think there would have been a bit of a shock wave from a plane going 538 mph?? People on nearby had seen a smaller type of plane then such a boeing 757. Your sadly mistaken shock14 if you can beileve that a load of explosives blew up the pentagon...If you actually see it that way....then your in for a hell of a surprise when videos are realesed....

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Posted by: ashash on the 23rd 2006f Jun @ 14:10  View profile Quote comment
After reading the majority of people's comments, its obviously not even worth trying. I mean:

"There was a bomb on the plane, and the plane desintegrated before hiting the pentagon." - Shock14

Lol.. Omfg..

Yes Shock14, that would be the first time in history that a plane completly desintegrated himself, by bombs or by impact.

It was also the first time that a steel framed building colapsed due to fire. It actually happen 3 times that day, for the first time in history also.

Aparently many physics laws were paused during that 9th of September. Oh well.. life goes on.

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Posted by: GorgeousGal on the 23rd 2006f Jun @ 14:14  View profile Quote comment
To find out more of a story about the pentagon go to http://www.freedomunderground.org/memoryhole/ pentagon.php#Preloader

Also it is quite unbeileveable for a plane to fly at 530mphs 2 feet off the ground without some sort of jet blast?

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Posted by: SoulTaker on the 23rd 2006f Jun @ 14:24  View profile Quote comment
u guys are all NUTS!!! the truth was right in front of u all along. it was those crazy aliens.. bomb..plane... thats wut they want u too think.

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Posted by: sixpack434 on the 23rd 2006f Jun @ 15:07  View profile Quote comment
I wouldn't be surprised if this is done by the americans themselves. They've gained allot out of it, it was an excuse to go to war etc. They've gained allot out of 9/11

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Posted by: ashash on the 23rd 2006f Jun @ 15:25  View profile Quote comment
You know whats even more surprising: 5 years passed and 90% of the Americans still dont raise any questions. Biggest attack in their history and no one cares.

I can understand tho. Thru years there was plenty of brainwashing. The enemy is in the middle eas; those religious bastards, right?. The government is our friend.

Israel for example. Media worldwide make Israel look like a peacefull nation. Palestinians are the nuts, right? Right... Israel only decided to ocupy their country, based on some 1900's bullsh*t agreement, that said Jews were entitled to create their own land. After the WW2, poor jews went there, and simply established themselfs on Palestine.

I bet "you" would be very happy if they would come to your country, install themselfs and say: I think we are gonna stay here now. You would, wouldn't you?

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Posted by: juanandres on the 23rd 2006f Jun @ 16:01  View profile Quote comment
Sixpack434 your an idiot. Gained from the war??? Billions and billions of dollars spent. Maybe it was the oil, specially since gas price are sooooo low right now. Instead of making stupid emotionally driven comments how about some evidence. What we hope to get out of this war is stability in that region in the future. This doesn't happen in a day nor does it happen in a couple of years.

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Posted by: Tyrfingr on the 23rd 2006f Jun @ 16:29  View profile Quote comment
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On 24-06-06 00:25 ashash wrote:
You know whats even more surprising: 5 years passed and 90% of the Americans still dont raise any questions. Biggest attack in their history and no one cares.

I can understand tho. Thru years there was plenty of brainwashing. The enemy is in the middle eas; those religious bastards, right?. The government is our friend.

Israel for example. Media worldwide make Israel look like a peacefull nation. Palestinians are the nuts, right? Right... Israel only decided to ocupy their country, based on some 1900's bullsh*t agreement, that said Jews were entitled to create their own land. After the WW2, poor jews went there, and simply established themselfs on Palestine.

I bet "you" would be very happy if they would come to your country, install themselfs and say: I think we are gonna stay here now. You would, wouldn't you?


The general crowd that doesnt indulge in politics knows little or nothing at all about the workings of politics, and nore do they have any vital information... But they do raise questions, the problem is that they dont have a place to do so for the world to see, except perhaps for places like these but that wont change the world.... Plus just like in every other country in the world, people have a blind naive faith to their goverment to make the right choices and the right actions for them. It's not typical for america, it's just typical for politics...

The media effectively sends signals to the masses of how "everyone in our fine democracy is thinking" and so everyone believes that everyone else around them is thinking whatever the media is stating... But when you ask people on the streets you get other responses, and if you are realistic you understand that not everyone is sharing the same thoughts that the goverments wants us to think. It's just a big fucking illusion all of it.

Just take a look at all the different views on this site for instance, and questions asked. And then try and picture that across America, or other entire countries. And those 90% you speak of will be reduced dramatically.

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Posted by: SoulTaker on the 23rd 2006f Jun @ 18:54  View profile Quote comment
just kidding about the aliens, it wasnt them. but here is my theory, you may disagree, thats ok, because that is wut america is all about, balances. i believe the government had purposly aired the video on the news/internet, so that people like us would debate over whether it was a plane or bomb, it would distract us from other issues that are going on in america. when we watch the video, all u see is an object flying into the pentagon, and then a HUGE explosion, this is a strategic move that the government uses in war situations. when people see videos like this, it makes us feel FEAR, PAIN, and HATRED towards muslims(terrorism) or just fear too leave your homes, it also makes people buy all these high tech security equipment for our houses, the security companies have been paying the news to air video coverages on crimes in america(cause they know their losing money), so that they would make money from purchases. dont get me wrong, there are crimes, but just not as much in the last decade. The government has been brainwashing us all to a point where we agree with the president and every decision he makes. Propaganda is powerful, it can stop wars or begin them, it makes us feel patriotic, and then it even gets to a point where kids grow up being told that black people are better in sports than white people, and they believe it, im just kidding about that, i love all people, just trying to make a point. getting back to propaganda on the war, i dont believe America will go to war with Iran and i dont believe many americans want to either, our government has been sending american media to their country for quite a bit of time and to other eastern countries(ex:simpson shows in iraq). the iran people... THEY LOVE OUR CULTURE, they see it, and they want to be more like us, u see... they are on our side, we brainwash them, it is our governments secret weapon that most people are blind by, they already won us, now they are working on other countries. well... that is wut i think, u may or may not agree... you deside

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Posted by: Atheistguy on the 23rd 2006f Jun @ 20:29  View profile Quote comment
Things like this make me hate the goverment even more, but more so than the government, our public sucks too. Why do so many people accept and trust the government? Theres no damn way a plane that big made that hole.

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Posted by: GorgeousGal on the 23rd 2006f Jun @ 20:41  View profile Quote comment
Good point soultaker, quite true. Of course the government always has somthing up it's sleeve to divert society another way....

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Posted by: Rockjaw147 on the 23rd 2006f Jun @ 21:20  View profile Quote comment
WOW- I finally found out how to post comments......Most of these comments in here have brought up good points and it is good to see everyones different opinions.

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Posted by: Naked on the 24th 2006f Jun @ 00:56  View profile Quote comment
If you lliked this video do a search for "Loose Change 2nd Edition" An even longer video on the subject. Even if your not a "Conspiracy Theorist" this video raises alot of question.

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Posted by: 356094 on the 24th 2006f Jun @ 01:15  View profile Quote comment
its those goddamn mexicans again!!!

they are behind all of it!!

they just framed the al queda!

well, in actuality, Bin Laden WAS framed for 9/11. its painfully obvious. he was the scapegoat when our government betrayed it's own countrymen.

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Posted by: realtihs on the 24th 2006f Jun @ 02:57  View profile Quote comment
i think the consperacy of loose change is 1 good 1,
al the facts that u can see in one hour are so serious.

i just wanna say to the admin to post this or somthing.
this is the docu http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5137 581991288263801&q=911

binladen wasnt the man after 9-11 BUSH WASS!!

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Posted by: URARetard on the 24th 2006f Jun @ 04:04  View profile Quote comment
The majority of the population of the world are very very stupid. In America, the density of stupidy reaches epic proportions.

For proof of this, look at how many borderline retards believe that a plane did NOT hit the Pentagon and that it was a government conspiracy.

You are allowed to believe that in our free country. But be aware, YOU ARE A RETARD.


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Posted by: Dazz on the 24th 2006f Jun @ 04:17  View profile Quote comment
I'm Glad i live in holland :p corrupt politicians also.. but it's not that big they want to concure the world or something. Damn i hate bush.. He putts the whole world in his shit. He got to blame himself for the dead americans and all the other people.
So yeah i think the attacks at 9/11 where a smart sett-up for him to attack Iraq for the oil.(sorry for my bad english) But next-time is europe his target.

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Posted by: URARetard on the 24th 2006f Jun @ 04:20  View profile Quote comment
Ah, another retard posts.

Well done!

Yes, you are probably correct, Bush was behind 9/11 and his next target is Europe.

What is your mental age, 7?

RETARD


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Posted by: Dazz on the 24th 2006f Jun @ 07:10  View profile Quote comment
lol.. i know.. But well.. i live in europe so that make's me less retarded :p. Always look on the bright side of life! .
It's retarded you're answering every post and say they're retarded lol

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Posted by: Shad0w on the 24th 2006f Jun @ 09:20  View profile Quote comment
I live in Broolyn, NY, and I saw the second plane hit the second tower. I even have photos of the aftermath.

I can't make any statements about the pentagon, because I wasn't there... but in New York, those planes were for real.

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Posted by: xeno on the 24th 2006f Jun @ 09:33  View profile Quote comment
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On 24-06-06 13:20 URARetard wrote:
Ah, another retard posts.

Well done!

Yes, you are probably correct, Bush was behind 9/11 and his next target is Europe.

What is your mental age, 7?

RETARD



So sad...


You gonna respond to that?

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Posted by: CopyCat on the 24th 2006f Jun @ 10:27  View profile Quote comment
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On 24-06-06 13:17 Dazz wrote:
I'm Glad i live in holland :p corrupt politicians also.. but it's not that big they want to concure the world or something. Damn i hate bush.. He putts the whole world in his shit. He got to blame himself for the dead americans and all the other people.
So yeah i think the attacks at 9/11 where a smart sett-up for him to attack Iraq for the oil.(sorry for my bad english) But next-time is europe his target.

Hmmm, you guys got any oil over there ???

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Posted by: URARetard on the 24th 2006f Jun @ 10:30  View profile Quote comment
What's sad is the number of retarded people who think the American government staged the attacks.

I despair for the future of mankind. Judging by the intelligence of the posts on this thread, we will soon be out-evolved by the monkeys and chimpanzees.


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Posted by: SoulTaker on the 24th 2006f Jun @ 10:41  View profile Quote comment
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On 24-06-06 19:30 URARetard wrote:
What's sad is the number of retarded people who think the American government staged the attacks.

I despair for the future of mankind. Judging by the intelligence of the posts on this thread, we will soon be out-evolved by the monkeys and chimpanzees.


nah, those monkeys and chimpanzees will fight each other for supremacy, we will sit and watch them fight it out, and start taking bets.

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Posted by: 356094 on the 24th 2006f Jun @ 11:43  View profile Quote comment
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On 24-06-06 19:30 URARetard wrote:
What's sad is the number of retarded people who think the American government staged the attacks.

I despair for the future of mankind. Judging by the intelligence of the posts on this thread, we will soon be out-evolved by the monkeys and chimpanzees.


oh come on. its so frickin obvious that it was all set up.
your just gullible as to believe in the government and in all of its stories.

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Posted by: cptkerk on the 24th 2006f Jun @ 12:44  View profile Quote comment
i love these idiots who have nothing better to do but to come up with crack pot conspiracy theories.

It just goes to show that america isnt so different than other countries because there is filth here and there is filth over there.

Im real sure its possible to just fake peoples families suffering and losing loved ones and making up hundreds of fake poeple lost in the crash.

Laughable...i remember i met a pentagon worker who talked about how the plane crashed and the jet fuel made things burn like napalm..as they were trying to evacuate a bunch of workers went around trying to save people...he said he saw the hand of a child severed from the crash and he picked it up and put it in his pocket. The way he broke down..im sure he was just covering it all up and telling lies...IDIOTS. You all need to grow up get a life and stop acting like every big tragedy is just some kind of plot. Its real easy to point fingers when you got nothing else to do but sit on your ass get fat and dont know what its like to suffer.

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Posted by: SoulTaker on the 24th 2006f Jun @ 12:48  View profile Quote comment
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On 24-06-06 21:44 cptkerk wrote:
i love these idiots who have nothing better to do but to come up with crack pot conspiracy theories.

It just goes to show that america isnt so different than other countries because there is filth here and there is filth over there.

Im real sure its possible to just fake peoples families suffering and losing loved ones and making up hundreds of fake poeple lost in the crash.

Laughable...i remember i met a pentagon worker who talked about how the plane crashed and the jet fuel made things burn like napalm..as they were trying to evacuate a bunch of workers went around trying to save people...he said he saw the hand of a child severed from the crash and he picked it up and put it in his pocket. The way he broke down..im sure he was just covering it all up and telling lies...IDIOTS. You all need to grow up get a life and stop acting like every big tragedy is just some kind of plot. Its real easy to point fingers when you got nothing else to do but sit on your ass get fat and dont know what its like to suffer.

well said

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Posted by: samgreen47 on the 24th 2006f Jun @ 17:03  View profile Quote comment
i cant believe the yanks would actually blow up their own to create an opppurtunity to attack iraq.they would have to be super effiecient to organise that as soon as the world trade centre incident took place! "quick two planes have just sttackedc the world trade centre today if were quick we can blow up the WTC

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Posted by: cptkerk on the 24th 2006f Jun @ 19:58  View profile Quote comment
and then you think about it.....you have to create a fake plane to disappear..fake terrorist.....fake families that are grieving..fake evidence right away...somehow make sure all these people are into it wont talk.

And than the dumbest thing yet is...dont you think the Bin Ladin would speak up and say...."hey that wasnt us who crashed into he Pentagon...look your government tells you lies."
since he takes EVERY opportunity to make america look evil

Im so sure they would have passed on THATopportunity if that was the case (rolls eyes)

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Posted by: SoulTaker on the 25th 2006f Jun @ 01:24  View profile Quote comment
And than the dumbest thing yet is...dont you think the Bin Ladin would speak up and say...."hey that wasnt us who crashed into he Pentagon...look your government tells you lies."
since he takes EVERY opportunity to make america look evil

Im so sure they would have passed on THATopportunity if that was the case (rolls eyes)

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dude, bin laden did say he had nothing to do with 9/11, bush just said it was him. watch other videos. how the hell can that dumb idiot hiding in a cave, 3,000 miles away pull something off this big, only someone like the us government could pull something off from this magnitude.

the attempted terrorist attack in 1993 to tumble the world trade center had failed, so the u.s government thought... hay why not blow up the world trade center again, we could all blame the terrorirst. or better yet, lets blame osama bin laden, everyone hates him

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Posted by: Dazz on the 25th 2006f Jun @ 05:31  View profile Quote comment
My bro has got to go to uruzgan cause those american soldiers can't handel it at all. Maybe it's not an sett-up but why start a war against terrorist when you can't get any big terrorist, the only big terrorists he gets are the dead ones? Bush didn't look at the situation what was happening.. but right after the attacks.. Lets go to iraq!

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Posted by: SoulTaker on the 25th 2006f Jun @ 08:55  View profile Quote comment
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On 25-06-06 14:31 Dazz wrote:
My bro has got to go to uruzgan cause those american soldiers can't handel it at all. Maybe it's not an sett-up but why start a war against terrorist when you can't get any big terrorist, the only big terrorists he gets are the dead ones? Bush didn't look at the situation what was happening.. but right after the attacks.. Lets go to iraq!

exactly, why go for the terrorist, lets just say it was them, but instead, lets go to iraq and get their oils

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Posted by: cptkerk on the 25th 2006f Jun @ 11:42  View profile Quote comment
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On 25-06-06 10:24 SoulTaker wrote:


And than the dumbest thing yet is...dont you think the Bin Ladin would speak up and say...."hey that wasnt us who crashed into he Pentagon...look your government tells you lies."
since he takes EVERY opportunity to make america look evil

Im so sure they would have passed on THATopportunity if that was the case (rolls eyes)


dude, bin laden did say he had nothing to do with 9/11, bush just said it was him. watch other videos. how the hell can that dumb idiot hiding in a cave, 3,000 miles away pull something off this big, only someone like the us government could pull something off from this magnitude.

the attempted terrorist attack in 1993 to tumble the world trade center had failed, so the u.s government thought... hay why not blow up the world trade center again, we could all blame the terrorirst. or better yet, lets blame osama bin laden, everyone hates him[/quote]


omg you are such a fucking retard....after the attacks Bin Ladin came out and IMMEDIATELY took responsibility for the attacks....how fucking stupid can you be...get a life little boy and stop spreading your hateful lies.

hiding in a cave no dumbass he only took refuge when the US invaded Afganistan until than the Taliban ran the majority of the country.....this is the same group that ran off the soviets would with out a doubt have the resources to pull off a terrorist attack.

How ignorant and stupid can you be? you need to educate yourself and get away from your crack induced hysteria.

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Posted by: SoulTaker on the 25th 2006f Jun @ 19:04  View profile Quote comment
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On 25-06-06 20:42 cptkerk wrote:
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dude, bin laden did say he had nothing to do with 9/11, bush just said it was him. watch other videos. how the hell can that dumb idiot hiding in a cave, 3,000 miles away pull something off this big, only someone like the us government could pull something off from this magnitude.

the attempted terrorist attack in 1993 to tumble the world trade center had failed, so the u.s government thought... hay why not blow up the world trade center again, we could all blame the terrorirst. or better yet, lets blame osama bin laden, everyone hates him



omg you are such a fucking retard....after the attacks Bin Ladin came out and IMMEDIATELY took responsibility for the attacks....how fucking stupid can you be...get a life little boy and stop spreading your hateful lies.

hiding in a cave no dumbass he only took refuge when the US invaded Afganistan until than the Taliban ran the majority of the country.....this is the same group that ran off the soviets would with out a doubt have the resources to pull off a terrorist attack.

How ignorant and stupid can you be? you need to educate yourself and get away from your crack induced hysteria.[/quote]
first of all, that video of him was poorly filmed, how do u know it was some guy with make up on or disgise, there is technology out there to replicate peoples voices u know... bin laden has many people who dress like him, talk like him, and even have the same facial discriptions like him. if he said he did it, then how come the u.s government cant find him(maybe cause he didnt do it, and he is not important, so they just let him go). we found saddam like 20 feet below the ground, in the middle of know where, he had nothing to do with 9/11. u need to think of the possibilities dude, and stop listening to ur