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Part 2 of the documentary that questions the Pentagon attack on 9/11.

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Posted by: Scottjpw on the 24th 2006f June 2006 | Comments: (59) | Make Favorite


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Posted by: scottjpw on the 24th 2006f Jun @ 07:23  View profile Quote comment
I'll add these types of clips to the forum. It should be ready by Wednesday Working on it now!

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Posted by: CopyCat on the 24th 2006f Jun @ 07:48  View profile Quote comment
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On 24-06-06 13:23 scottjpw wrote:
I'll add these types of clips to the forum. It should be ready by Wednesday Working on it now!

That'll be cool as hell scott... I love love reading and laughing at the comments... And I'd love to answer some of the questions that these videos impose... But if I do, it might stop some of the funny as hell comments... lmfao !!!

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Posted by: Joe_ on the 24th 2006f Jun @ 07:55  View profile Quote comment
ok so if it was a bunker buster or a missile, who fired it and why? i mean if it were the terrorists they should know that a 757 would have caused way more damage than a missile.so why use a missile? but if it was someone else, who was it? bush? why? what for? i don't understand...

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Posted by: ellieberry on the 24th 2006f Jun @ 08:47  View profile Quote comment
whens part 3 comin out, scott?

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Posted by: BlueAngel on the 24th 2006f Jun @ 08:54  View profile Quote comment
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That'll be cool as hell scott... I love love reading and laughing at the comments... And I'd love to answer some of the questions that these videos impose... But if I do, it might stop some of the funny as hell comments... lmfao !!!

Mitch, please turn on your phone so I can call you or call me. Its so very important that I talk to you right now.

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Posted by: finnishguy on the 24th 2006f Jun @ 08:55  View profile Quote comment
ehmmm... wheres the plane?

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Posted by: CopyCat on the 24th 2006f Jun @ 10:36  View profile Quote comment
The plane, the plane.. ** The Fantasy Island theme song plays in the background...**

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Posted by: Tyrfingr on the 24th 2006f Jun @ 11:34  View profile Quote comment
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On 24-06-06 13:55 Joe_ wrote:
ok so if it was a bunker buster or a missile, who fired it and why? i mean if it were the terrorists they should know that a 757 would have caused way more damage than a missile.so why use a missile? but if it was someone else, who was it? bush? why? what for? i don't understand...


To the pentagon a missile would do more damage, something he pointed out in the video. And i agree with.. The pentagon after all is built to sustain heavy damage. And considering that a boeing is made out of leightweight metal, mostly aluminium, it couldnt possibly eat itself through that many innerwalls... Pentagon was finished 1943 way before there were any bunkerbusters, so the design was meant to withstand conventional weapons at the time. So IF they did fire a bunkerbuster as the video mentions. It was most likely and simply just to evaluate how the building would fare against such a weapon.

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Posted by: Eddy on the 24th 2006f Jun @ 12:08  View profile Quote comment
Face it America your government is fooling you. What they tell you is so far from the truth its not even funny not only with september 11 they lied about there reasons for invading iraq.Wheres all the WMD? The american government is pulling a blanket over your eyes and if everyone acts like nothing is goin on your counrty will decay like it has been since the 90s maybe they should worrie about problems at home instead of what people are doin 5000 km way.

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Posted by: Fulgore on the 24th 2006f Jun @ 12:16  View profile Quote comment
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That'll be cool as hell scott... I love love reading and laughing at the comments... And I'd love to answer some of the questions that these videos impose... But if I do, it might stop some of the funny as hell comments... lmfao !!!


Must be warm when you go to bed, covered in a thick blanket of ignorance, typical yank :P

Answer the questions :P

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Posted by: _Heretic_ on the 24th 2006f Jun @ 12:25  View profile Quote comment
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On 24-06-06 18:08 Eddy wrote:
Face it America your government is fooling you. What they tell you is so far from the truth its not even funny not only with september 11 they lied about there reasons for invading iraq.Wheres all the WMD? The american government is pulling a blanket over your eyes and if everyone acts like nothing is goin on your counrty will decay like it has been since the 90s maybe they should worrie about problems at home instead of what people are doin 5000 km way.


-Yech !!

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Posted by: xeno on the 24th 2006f Jun @ 12:27  View profile Quote comment
The video is so convincing. I showed these videos to a guy who strongly believed a plane hit the pentagon then after watching this he changed his mind and didnt know what to think.

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Posted by: Shad0w on the 24th 2006f Jun @ 12:30  View profile Quote comment
I agree that Bush is not to be trusted. Would I go so far as to suggest that he and his cronies would actually plan and execute an attack against America? No.

As a New Yorker (I live in Brooklyn, just across the river from lower Manhattan), I witnessed the second plane hit the WTC, so I can say with no doubt whatsoever that we were attacked, using planes as weapons, on Sept. 11.

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Posted by: CopyCat on the 24th 2006f Jun @ 12:30  View profile Quote comment
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Must be warm when you go to bed, covered in a thick blanket of ignorance, typical yank :P

Answer the questions :P

Hell no, if I do you guys might stop posting all this funny stuff... lol.. I'm loven this !!! The plane, the plane, where is the plane... lmao !!!

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Posted by: SoulTaker on the 24th 2006f Jun @ 13:21  View profile Quote comment
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ehmmm... wheres the plane?

there was a plane, if u go too google and search pentagon incident, it will take u too all these websites that would show u the science and physics behind the boeing 757. there were pictures that showed landing gears, engine parts, even a photo that slightly resembles a plane. no way could the government go in there and place all those plane reckages all around the pentagon, news cameras were all over the scene... or maybe the government wanted too make it seem like a plane and purposly placed the plane wreckage to cover up the bomb. but, i do believe it was a plane, people just have too much time on their hands too think otherwise(but that cool though, everyone has their own opinion). but i do believe one thing, that is, i believe bush did have something to do with it... there should have been more cameras... i bet there were more cameras, the government probably just confiscated them. there was a camera in particular, there was a gas station across from the pentagon, that clearly showed the plane coming into the pentagon, but the cia quickly took it... i dont know y they did... maybe so that they could release this video so that we would argue if it was a plane or bomb, too show how stupid we are too believe, too make fools of us... those bastards, they got me!!!

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Posted by: Shock14 on the 24th 2006f Jun @ 13:22  View profile Quote comment
nobody knows what happens, nobody will, the government is lying, always has, who knows why get over it!

don't worry, be happy

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Posted by: H_TOWN_MEX on the 24th 2006f Jun @ 13:25  View profile Quote comment
WELL THIS DUDE MAKES A LOT OF SENSE BUT HEY EVEN IF WE FIND THE '' TRUTH '' THE GOVERNMENT IS STILL GOING TO LIE TO US WE ARE FUCK NOT MATTER WHAT

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Posted by: ashash on the 24th 2006f Jun @ 14:02  View profile Quote comment
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Hell no, if I do you guys might stop posting all this funny stuff... lol.. I'm loven this !!! The plane, the plane, where is the plane... lmao !!!


And you say you are not an idiot? You laugh at the most obvious evidence that your government killed his own people. And you laugh at it, like a retarded kid.

Quit the smartass act; Smart is something you are not. An ass maybe.

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Posted by: 356094 on the 24th 2006f Jun @ 15:14  View profile Quote comment
All of 9/11 was staged.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2023 320890224991194

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Posted by: supersam on the 24th 2006f Jun @ 15:18  View profile Quote comment
indeed it was a missile because ive been trying to work it out and the only thing tht might of hit it was a missle and tht is the thing tht must of hit it because when u look at the damage then tht plane would of never hit it even if it nose dived there is no way a plane can hit tht with a lil bit damage so it was of been a missile

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Posted by: Kapacs on the 24th 2006f Jun @ 15:35  View profile Quote comment
and also the pentagon is known for having anti-air turrets which launch automatically if something comes nearer than 300 meters or so.......what happened with those??

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Posted by: CopyCat on the 24th 2006f Jun @ 17:42  View profile Quote comment
Oh boy the shit is getting deep in here... lmfao... The plane, the plane !!! Where did the plane go !! lol.. ** The Fantasy Island theme song plays in the background...**

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Posted by: Eddy on the 24th 2006f Jun @ 18:56  View profile Quote comment
THere Was no plane nothing was ever taking out that had to do with a plane. There would have been damage from the wing on the sides ofthe walls or they would have been ripped of and probaly would have stayed in the wall. There were no engines landing geard wings tall section or bodies from the plan hmmm.. i wonder where they went.

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Posted by: Nemesis80 on the 24th 2006f Jun @ 19:25  View profile Quote comment
Heres a better version of this kind of Video, Its been over google video and it is free, so you can copy it, send it, download it how ever it please you:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260 059923762628848&q=loose+change

But I must warn you, it is 1h21mins longs so get confy to watch it. I dare anyone to stay Idefferent to this video

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Posted by: cptkerk on the 24th 2006f Jun @ 19:40  View profile Quote comment
hey morons read this...and feel extra stupid for today

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defen se/1227842.html?page=6&c=y

Also get a job or go to school and stop wasting your life dishonoring the hard men and women who actually deal with these situations and are making something of themselves.

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Posted by: 197Sqn_ATC on the 24th 2006f Jun @ 20:30  View profile Quote comment
I never believe conspiracies without hard evidence. However, the evidence here does rule out a plane hitting the pentagon. Where's the damage from the wings. Anyway, I'm wont make my mind yet in case I'm wrong and I dont want to disrespect the people who died.

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Posted by: wat_ on the 24th 2006f Jun @ 21:43  View profile Quote comment
havent seen this particular vid but have seen many others like it and yeah im 1 of the guys who thinks american GOVERNMENT is full of shit....but dont think its right to insult american ppl.

i know a few yanks(if they dont mind me calling em that) who hate their government but really they cant do fuck all abt it.

most ppl just go by their media...i remember being in a chatroom once when american pow's were paraded on t.v yet when i said it...i got attacked by angry americans saying im full of shit and that it couldnt have happened and had it happened their media would have reported it aswell....they did find out the truth but a day or two later.

like i said dont blame the american ppl...its just the fucking government thats full of shit and as someone else has already pointed out...all goverments/politicians r full of shit corrupt bastards

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Posted by: cptkerk on the 24th 2006f Jun @ 22:48  View profile Quote comment
yeah all goverments have bad seeds well NEWSFLASH human beings are not perfect...there are good people in the gov and bad people but nonone should try and just guess without knowing the FULLSTORY.

Just like all organizations in the world you have corrupt religions governments businesses but you know what if you live by morals and standards and work to make things better your life will be a whole lot more enjoyable.

Thank god we didnt have the type of people in this world during WW2 my god we would have been destroyed while argueing about stupid shit but it goes to show you time does not heal ignorance it only makes it worse.

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Posted by: SoulTaker on the 24th 2006f Jun @ 23:33  View profile Quote comment
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On 25-06-06 01:25 Nemesis80 wrote:
Heres a better version of this kind of Video, Its been over google video and it is free, so you can copy it, send it, download it how ever it please you:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260 059923762628848&q=loose+change

But I must warn you, it is 1h21mins longs so get confy to watch it. I dare anyone to stay Idefferent to this video

hey nemisis, i watched the video, it was a great documentary, damn. that really upset me, watching that vid, our GOVERNMENT, our own GOVERNMENT!!! They staged the entire thing, damn they did a real good job doing it too, i certainly was fooled. anyone who reads this, u should also watch the video, its about 1 hour and 21 mins, but its pretty damn good. thanks nemisis for the links.

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Posted by: Tyrfingr on the 25th 2006f Jun @ 00:24  View profile Quote comment
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hey nemisis, i watched the video, it was a great documentary, damn. that really upset me, watching that vid, our GOVERNMENT, our own GOVERNMENT!!! They staged the entire thing, damn they did a real good job doing it too, i certainly was fooled. anyone who reads this, u should also watch the video, its about 1 hour and 21 mins, but its pretty damn good. thanks nemisis for the links.


Seen most of the related videos... Quite interesting points here and there, you should watch this one too if you haven't already. 1.44 minutes long.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3498 980438587461603&q=loose+change

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Posted by: julyda4th on the 25th 2006f Jun @ 01:41  View profile Quote comment
hey yo... conceding that the govt was behind 9/11 is NOT being disrespectful to the dead. The least you can do is give it a fair thought, exercise ur grey cells and see if a blanket is really over ur eyes... u got it all on the videos above... and they'v been around for a while now... if u still think that a plane went in to the pentagon jus cuz two went in to the towers.... ahem... all the best!

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Posted by: SoulTaker on the 25th 2006f Jun @ 04:00  View profile Quote comment
u guys should really watch the loose change video on google, the 1 hr and 21 min video, its long, but its worth it. when those towers fell, u can cleary see explosions about 20 floors below(burst of clouds coming out of the building), they say its the air pressure, but i think thats impossible from 20 floors below, and the fact that each floor was air locked. the video is also shown in like this infrared thing, and u can clearly see sparks from the 20 floors below, like about 4 of them. (DAMMIT EVEN PEOPLE HEARD THE DAMN EXPLOSIONS!!). also, wouldnt the towers fall slow because of the reinforce steel on each floor, or even stop(looks like a percision demolition, it fell at the speed of free fall, hitting each floor as it went down, with the reinforce steel. even with the weight from the building itself, the structure should still hold). another thing in the video, they say that this was the first time in history that any building collapsed because of a fire(only 18mins had past before the tower fell with airplane fuel burning the inside of the building, not long or hot enoough to do the job), when the 7th tower fell, there was barely a fire in building(PLUS IT WAS SO DAMN FAR AWAY FROM THE WORLD TRADE CENTER, WHY THAT BUILDING!!! WHY NOT THE OTHER ONES!!!, and wuts funny about that clip was the fact that it collapsed just as if someone had percisely placed explosive in the building so that it would fall like in an acutal demolition.

Please dont think im trying to make u believe this like me... but rather considerate it, and be sincere about it. Everyone should be given the truth, 3000 people dead, and no one knows why.



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Posted by: URARetard on the 25th 2006f Jun @ 11:26  View profile Quote comment
AH, BEHOLD THE FLOOD OF RETARDS!

With their deformed brains, they cannot cope with the obvious.

Like sheep, they all bleat the same noise.

Confused, they wonder why everyone laughs at them in their real lives, unlike their "friends" on the Internet.

BUT BUT BUSH DID IT, I SAW A VIDEO ON THE INTERNET!!

Fuckwit + Retard = Fucktard

If you believe that the government did it then that is what you are.

A FUCKTARD


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Posted by: SoulTaker on the 25th 2006f Jun @ 11:52  View profile Quote comment
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On 25-06-06 17:26 URARetard wrote:
AH, BEHOLD THE FLOOD OF RETARDS!

With their deformed brains, they cannot cope with the obvious.

Like sheep, they all bleat the same noise.

Confused, they wonder why everyone laughs at them in their real lives, unlike their "friends" on the Internet.

BUT BUT BUSH DID IT, I SAW A VIDEO ON THE INTERNET!!

Fuckwit + Retard = Fucktard

If you believe that the government did it then that is what you are.

A FUCKTARD


that is just ignorance

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Posted by: fuzzywuzzy on the 25th 2006f Jun @ 14:07  View profile Quote comment
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and also the pentagon is known for having anti-air turrets which launch automatically if something comes nearer than 300 meters or so.......what happened with those??


yes the pentagon did have this, if a plane got within a certain distance of the pentagon without a special transmitter a missle would launch at it, now the fact that "a plane" hit the building would mean either it did have the correct transmitter or that the missle defense system was shut down (only high ranking people have access to that) either way it proves something is going on. Also there is an airforce base 10 miles from washington DC and yet no figher aircraft were launched till after.

the new alex jones documentary came out everyone should check it out, its very good.


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7048 572757566726569&q=alex+jones

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Posted by: URARetard on the 25th 2006f Jun @ 18:36  View profile Quote comment
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the new alex jones documentary came out everyone should check it out, its very good.


I've seen the video.

I can confirm that it was made for retards, by retards.

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Posted by: CopyCat on the 25th 2006f Jun @ 18:45  View profile Quote comment
I think this video shows what happen to most of that 757...Although they did find some parts of the plane...

http://www.dumpalink.com/media/1138269221/Pla ne_Vs_Concrete_Wall

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Posted by: SoulTaker on the 25th 2006f Jun @ 21:44  View profile Quote comment
yea, know that you mention the video, loose change, i take it back. im sure this video was just made up, just to get some attention, there are many other explanations that would dissprove those theories. just a bunch of kids making stuff up.

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Posted by: fuzzywuzzy on the 25th 2006f Jun @ 23:50  View profile Quote comment
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I think this video shows what happen to most of that 757...Although they did find some parts of the plane...

http://www.dumpalink.com/media/1138269221/Pla ne_Vs_Concrete_Wall


thats no 757, thats a small aircraft, also no one knows what the wall that it hit is made out of. It didnt show the impact crator either.

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Posted by: CopyCat on the 26th 2006f Jun @ 01:17  View profile Quote comment
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thats no 757, thats a small aircraft, also no one knows what the wall that it hit is made out of. It didnt show the impact crator either.

No one knows what the wall that it hit is made out of ??? lol... Maybe you and I don't know what it was made of, but I'd think a whole shit load of people out there do... And I would say it was probably something pretty hard being it is the fucking Pentagon... It surprises me that it didn't just leave a big black spot on the wall... And about the impact crator, why would it leave a impact crator ??? It hit the wall not the ground... There was something like 150 eyewitnesses that seen it happen... Can I find debris of a Boeing 757... This looks like airplane debris to me all out in the grass in this picture...

http://www.news.navy.mil/management/photodb/p hotos/010911-N-6157F-001.jpg

Here's one obvious question the conspiracy theorists don't ask and certainly could not answer in any compelling way... If the plane didn't crash into the Pentagon, what did happen to the it and all its passengers??? Did it vanish into thin air??? As a late friend of mine once said, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof." You silly ass conspiracy theorists just talk, you have no proof of any kind... We have airplane debris and eyewitnesses... I have not heard one person say, yeah I was standing in front of the Pentagon and I didn't see no plane... You people need to get a life...

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No one knows what the wall that it hit is made out of ??? lol... Maybe you and I don't know what it was made of, but I'd think a whole shit load of people out there do... And I would say it was probably something pretty hard being it is the fucking Pentagon... It surprises me that it didn't just leave a big black spot on the wall... And about the impact crator, why would it leave a impact crator ??? It hit the wall not the ground... There was something like 150 eyewitnesses that seen it happen... Can I find debris of a Boeing 757... This looks like airplane debris to me all out in the grass in this picture...

http://www.news.navy.mil/management/photodb/p hotos/010911-N-6157F-001.jpg

Here's one obvious question the conspiracy theorists don't ask and certainly could not answer in any compelling way... If the plane didn't crash into the Pentagon, what did happen to the it and all its passengers??? Did it vanish into thin air??? As a late friend of mine once said, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof." You silly ass conspiracy theorists just talk, you have no proof of any kind... We have airplane debris and eyewitnesses... I have not heard one person say, yeah I was standing in front of the Pentagon and I didn't see no plane... You people need to get a life...

i can see that u r a dumbass from all your other comments, by now i dont see how anyone could believe wut u say, and copy cat, u need to get a life and grow up, u make fun of america, like its nothing, and make jokes about peoples comments, its, atleadt they r thinking, unlike u.

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Posted by: CopyCat on the 26th 2006f Jun @ 03:07  View profile Quote comment
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i can see that u r a dumbass from all your other comments, by now i dont see how anyone could believe wut u say, and copy cat, u need to get a life and grow up, u make fun of america, like its nothing, and make jokes about peoples comments, its, atleadt they r thinking, unlike u.


You really don't deserve a return comment, but what the hell... I see in your profile that you just walked in the door here at yourdailymedia, you only have 4 comments and 43 views... I'm guessing you don't even know what I'm talking about, being you have not even set up a avatar... This also tells me that you know nothing about me because I love America and have not said anything derogatory about it... And any jokes, if any you have seen me make toward anyone in here has been in jest, toward my friends here.. And as for the dumbass thing, I think anyone can look at our typing skill side by side and know who is the more intelligent one here... Good day..

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Posted by: Tyrfingr on the 26th 2006f Jun @ 03:23  View profile Quote comment
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You really don't deserve a return comment, but what the hell... I see in your profile that you just walked in the door here at yourdailymedia, you only have 4 comments and 43 views... I'm guessing you don't even know what I'm talking about, being you have not even set up a avatar... This also tells me that you know nothing about me because I love America and have not said anything derogatory about it... And any jokes, if any you have seen me make toward anyone in here has been in jest, toward my friends here.. And as for the dumbass thing, I think anyone can look at our typing skill side by side and know who is the more intelligent one here... Good day..


Me thinks that broadside just sunk that scurvey seadog's boat capt'n

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Me thinks that broadside just sunk that scurvey seadog's boat capt'n

Yeah well, the little noob really wasn't worth the time it took me to type that, but I felt charitable... Most of the time I just ignore those little kids, I'm guessing that what he was... It sounded like something a child might would just jump into a new website and say...

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Posted by: Eddy on the 26th 2006f Jun @ 18:05  View profile Quote comment
Lets see why would bush plan 911.HMMM.. Ok he needs a reason to go to iraq for oil. SO he makes it look like Al-qiuda or whatever attaks america. There is his reason to go to afghanostan then from there he makes up lies that iraq is hiding key members of that group and has WMDs remeber none have been found to this date hmmm. He also said he wanted to liberate them from the horrible Saddam Regime. Things were more peaceful when he was in power. And notice how they dont want to leave iraq> They need as much oil as they can steal before the UN says time to go.

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Posted by: fuzzywuzzy on the 27th 2006f Jun @ 08:29  View profile Quote comment
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No one knows what the wall that it hit is made out of ??? lol... Maybe you and I don't know what it was made of, but I'd think a whole shit load of people out there do... And I would say it was probably something pretty hard being it is the fucking Pentagon... It surprises me that it didn't just leave a big black spot on the wall... And about the impact crator, why would it leave a impact crator ??? It hit the wall not the ground... There was something like 150 eyewitnesses that seen it happen... Can I find debris of a Boeing 757... This looks like airplane debris to me all out in the grass in this picture...

http://www.news.navy.mil/management/photodb/p hotos/010911-N-6157F-001.jpg

Here's one obvious question the conspiracy theorists don't ask and certainly could not answer in any compelling way... If the plane didn't crash into the Pentagon, what did happen to the it and all its passengers??? Did it vanish into thin air??? As a late friend of mine once said, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof." You silly ass conspiracy theorists just talk, you have no proof of any kind... We have airplane debris and eyewitnesses... I have not heard one person say, yeah I was standing in front of the Pentagon and I didn't see no plane... You people need to get a life...


"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof."

good quote, but it works both ways, wheres the proof fire took down the WTC towers, building 7 didnt get hit by a plane, nor did any sizable debris hit it, there were small fires on a few floors, and yet it collapsed at free fall speed, why do all the govenment trusters not question building 7? or the hundreds of warnings people all over the US got before 9/11 telling them not to fly to NY or not to go into work/NYC? I do believe a plane hit the pentagon, a missle is just crazy, but we will never know what hit the pentagon there no proof to back up the govenments story, a few pieces of a plane, that doesnt mean anything.the govenment will never release evidense to back up their claims, but why not? bush says not to listen to these "conspiracy theorists" so he knows its becoming a big issue, wouldnt it be easy for him to just pick up a phone and call the pentagon or the CIA/FBI and say "release all the pentagon tapes and black boxes" In madrid there was that huge fire of that steel high rise building after 911, much like building 7, except the one in spain burned longer, hotter and had fire in most of the building, if you have seen the video from it you know how much more intense it was than that of all the world trade tower buildings. It was funny watching the new reports about it here in the US, everyone was saying how they were waiting for it to collapse since building 7 did just that and the fires were much smaller and less intense . so a day passes and it doesnt fall down, why? becuz a reqular fire doesnt bring down steel high rise buildings, it never has, except on 9/11. even in the north and south towers the fires werent burning for long, 10 minutes after the plane hit the fuel was gone and only the office items were burning, we can hear a fireman who is in one of the buidling saying to his chief that "there are 2 isolated pockets of fire and we should be able to knock it down with 2 lines", so these small isolated pockets of fire are what brought the buildings down? come on....theres just a lot of things that happened that have been challenged by physicists and engineers, like the north and south towers falling at free fall speed, when suposedly each floor falls onto the next and so on and so on, how can that be? any high school graduate can look at that and know something doesnt add up.

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Posted by: CopyCat on the 27th 2006f Jun @ 09:22  View profile Quote comment
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On 27-06-06 14:29 fuzzywuzzy wrote:
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"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof."

good quote, but it works both ways, wheres the proof fire took down the WTC towers, building 7 didnt get hit by a plane, nor did any sizable debris hit it, there were small fires on a few floors, and yet it collapsed at free fall speed, why do all the govenment trusters not question building 7? or the hundreds of warnings people all over the US got before 9/11 telling them not to fly to NY or not to go into work/NYC? I do believe a plane hit the pentagon, a missle is just crazy, but we will never know what hit the pentagon there no proof to back up the govenments story, a few pieces of a plane, that doesnt mean anything.the govenment will never release evidense to back up their claims, but why not? bush says not to listen to these "conspiracy theorists" so he knows its becoming a big issue, wouldnt it be easy for him to just pick up a phone and call the pentagon or the CIA/FBI and say "release all the pentagon tapes and black boxes" In madrid there was that huge fire of that steel high rise building after 911, much like building 7, except the one in spain burned longer, hotter and had fire in most of the building, if you have seen the video from it you know how much more intense it was than that of all the world trade tower buildings. It was funny watching the new reports about it here in the US, everyone was saying how they were waiting for it to collapse since building 7 did just that and the fires were much smaller and less intense . so a day passes and it doesnt fall down, why? becuz a reqular fire doesnt bring down steel high rise buildings, it never has, except on 9/11. even in the north and south towers the fires werent burning for long, 10 minutes after the plane hit the fuel was gone and only the office items were burning, we can hear a fireman who is in one of the buidling saying to his chief that "there are 2 isolated pockets of fire and we should be able to knock it down with 2 lines", so these small isolated pockets of fire are what brought the buildings down? come on....theres just a lot of things that happened that have been challenged by physicists and engineers, like the north and south towers falling at free fall speed, when suposedly each floor falls onto the next and so on and so on, how can that be? any high school graduate can look at that and know something doesnt add up.

Fuzzywuzzy, damn I hate that name... Make no mistake, the burden of proof is on the conspiracy theorists here, whose case would suggest that all of the hundreds of people who participated in the clean-up, recovery and investigation following the 9/11 attack — including scientists, engineers, coroners and professional air disaster investigators — are either all dead wrong or participating in a massive, improbably successful government cover-up... So far we haven't seen any proof of this at all... You're no doubt wondering who's behind all this conspiracy theorists bull shit... Well, according to the French newspaper Le Monde, the culprit is Thierry Meyssan, well-known leftist radical and president of the Voltaire Network, a controversial site devoted to "the fight for freedom and secularity... His son, Raphaël Meyssan, is credited as the Webmaster of both the Voltaire Network and Utopian Asylum, which, uncoincidentally, hosts "Hunt the Boeing!" If you choose to believe this mess, I sure theres not anything I can say to change your mind so go for it dude...

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Posted by: reduvio on the 27th 2006f Jun @ 10:16  View profile Quote comment
i do believe that something is amiss in this whole situation. the fact that building #7 fell at free fall speed and almost perfectly fell into its own footprints is unbelievable. when a building collapse it almost never falls evenly and perfectly. look at the timothy mcveigh bombing. that didnt make the building collapse and half of it was gone. Also there were multple buildings that were in between #7 and towers 1 & 2. ALso what about the warning that guliani recieved that the building was going down. how do you know exactly when the building was goin down. i live in ny and as i remember it they just collapsed without warning. also when the first tower falls the top leans to the side. why didnt it keep falling in that direction. instead the bottom floors gove out and the top falls into its footprints. OPEN your eyes ppl. at least question it before you dismiss it. there is also a recording of silverstein that say to take it down. he also renewed his 1.4 billion insurance on the 2 buildings a month b4. silverstein has made so much money from this tradegy its sad. he made 50 million just for stepin down on the freedom tower and letting the city build it instead. 50 million for not doing a dam thing. Money makes the world go round and this is the ultimate motive for all the ppl involved. BUsh is making billions in oil, silverstein is making money from the towers...Also WHY WAS THE WRECKAGE FROM THE TWIN TOWERS RECYCLED AND MELTED IN 3 MONTHS AFTER THE ATTACK. the biggest attack america has seen and all the evidence is melted and sold? by who, guiliani. He had the deal set up days after the attack. I just dont understand how a prudent person would actually get rid of the evidence if he didnt have something to hide. WHy did it take 4 years for the pentagon to release the tape of there bombing. its bullshit...IMPEACH BUSH

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Posted by: RobYDMfan on the 27th 2006f Jun @ 13:12  View profile Quote comment
bash bash bash Guantanamo wops sorry that slipped out what i wanted to say was i love how people start flaming this is my favorite on in this comments :

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AH, BEHOLD THE FLOOD OF RETARDS!

With their deformed brains, they cannot cope with the obvious.

Like sheep, they all bleat the same noise.

Confused, they wonder why everyone laughs at them in their real lives, unlike their "friends" on the Internet.

BUT BUT BUSH DID IT, I SAW A VIDEO ON THE INTERNET!!

Fuckwit + Retard = Fucktard

If you believe that the government did it then that is what you are.

A FUCKTARD

hmmm nice way of making your point o wait you just sound like FOX news
wait since this site is full of funny stuff il say my story in pictures
first check this picture out :

http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/image s/blantiwar-freedomrules.htm

then my favorite check this one :

http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/image s/blgoering.htm

http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/image s/blrealhijackers.htm

don't bother pressing next after this one XD
sickos(not you guys )

and go back there are lots of good pics

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Posted by: fuzzywuzzy on the 28th 2006f Jun @ 07:47  View profile Quote comment
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On 27-06-06 16:16 reduvio wrote:
i do believe that something is amiss in this whole situation. the fact that building #7 fell at free fall speed and almost perfectly fell into its own footprints is unbelievable. when a building collapse it almost never falls evenly and perfectly. look at the timothy mcveigh bombing. that didnt make the building collapse and half of it was gone. Also there were multple buildings that were in between #7 and towers 1 & 2. ALso what about the warning that guliani recieved that the building was going down. how do you know exactly when the building was goin down. i live in ny and as i remember it they just collapsed without warning. also when the first tower falls the top leans to the side. why didnt it keep falling in that direction. instead the bottom floors gove out and the top falls into its footprints. OPEN your eyes ppl. at least question it before you dismiss it. there is also a recording of silverstein that say to take it down. he also renewed his 1.4 billion insurance on the 2 buildings a month b4. silverstein has made so much money from this tradegy its sad. he made 50 million just for stepin down on the freedom tower and letting the city build it instead. 50 million for not doing a dam thing. Money makes the world go round and this is the ultimate motive for all the ppl involved. BUsh is making billions in oil, silverstein is making money from the towers...Also WHY WAS THE WRECKAGE FROM THE TWIN TOWERS RECYCLED AND MELTED IN 3 MONTHS AFTER THE ATTACK. the biggest attack america has seen and all the evidence is melted and sold? by who, guiliani. He had the deal set up days after the attack. I just dont understand how a prudent person would actually get rid of the evidence if he didnt have something to hide. WHy did it take 4 years for the pentagon to release the tape of there bombing. its bullshit...IMPEACH BUSH


silverstein tried to get even more billions of dollars from 911 he went to court but they deined him. And yes his statement to the PBS was very odd, he said something like "we decided the best thing to do was pull it, so we pulled and watched the building come down." guiliani knew exactley what he was doing when he sold the steel, he was a prosecutor in his early days so he knows a thing or two of saving the evidence.

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Posted by: reduvio on the 28th 2006f Jun @ 10:24  View profile Quote comment
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On 27-06-06 16:16 reduvio wrote:
i do believe that something is amiss in this whole situation. the fact that building #7 fell at free fall speed and almost perfectly fell into its own footprints is unbelievable. when a building collapse it almost never falls evenly and perfectly. look at the timothy mcveigh bombing. that didnt make the building collapse and half of it was gone. Also there were multple buildings that were in between #7 and towers 1 & 2. ALso what about the warning that guliani recieved that the building was going down. how do you know exactly when the building was goin down. i live in ny and as i remember it they just collapsed without warning. also when the first tower falls the top leans to the side. why didnt it keep falling in that direction. instead the bottom floors gove out and the top falls into its footprints. OPEN your eyes ppl. at least question it before you dismiss it. there is also a recording of silverstein that say to take it down. he also renewed his 1.4 billion insurance on the 2 buildings a month b4. silverstein has made so much money from this tradegy its sad. he made 50 million just for stepin down on the freedom tower and letting the city build it instead. 50 million for not doing a dam thing. Money makes the world go round and this is the ultimate motive for all the ppl involved. BUsh is making billions in oil, silverstein is making money from the towers...Also WHY WAS THE WRECKAGE FROM THE TWIN TOWERS RECYCLED AND MELTED IN 3 MONTHS AFTER THE ATTACK. the biggest attack america has seen and all the evidence is melted and sold? by who, guiliani. He had the deal set up days after the attack. I just dont understand how a prudent person would actually get rid of the evidence if he didnt have something to hide. WHy did it take 4 years for the pentagon to release the tape of there bombing. its bullshit...IMPEACH BUSH


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Posted by: RobYDMfan on the 28th 2006f Jun @ 12:38  View profile Quote comment
sorry guys the links have broken i don't know how anyway remove the space between image s and make it
images for example :
http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/image s/blantiwar-freedomrules.htm

........./image s/........

the link above has the space remove it and make it like this one :

........./images/........


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Posted by: uberalles on the 03rd 2006f Jul @ 22:14  View profile Quote comment
Hi, I'm from the government of the United states of America. Ha ha ha ha, we fooled you and there ain't nothing you can do about it. No one is going to listen to you. We've even made videos that clearly show the plane hitting the building just incase some of you "smart" ones catch on.
Yes, the plane is in the Atlantic like the guy said. The terrorist on the plane put it there. Oh wait, there were no terrorists. Ahhh, we paid the pilot to put it there and he parachuted.
We did all this just for fun and giggles.
I congradulate all you "smart" ones for seeing right through our little ploy.
It's funny that we can fake all this shit, but we can't find a way to off the guy who made this documentary. Funy thing that is.

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Posted by: RobYDMfan on the 04th 2006f Jul @ 03:56  View profile Quote comment
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On 04-07-06 04:14 uberalles wrote:
Hi, I'm from the government of the United states of America. Ha ha ha ha, we fooled you and there ain't nothing you can do about it. No one is going to listen to you. We've even made videos that clearly show the plane hitting the building just incase some of you "smart" ones catch on.
Yes, the plane is in the Atlantic like the guy said. The terrorist on the plane put it there. Oh wait, there were no terrorists. Ahhh, we paid the pilot to put it there and he parachuted.
We did all this just for fun and giggles.
I congradulate all you "smart" ones for seeing right through our little ploy.
It's funny that we can fake all this shit, but we can't find a way to off the guy who made this documentary. Funy thing that is.

what a load of crap

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Posted by: uberalles on the 05th 2006f Aug @ 15:45  View profile Quote comment
I can show you an FAA ID and a certification from the government that allows me access to the cockpit.

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Posted by: RobYDMfan on the 05th 2006f Aug @ 16:19  View profile Quote comment
Its all to late now it really doesn't mater who did the horrible attacks bush or osama or any other loony in the world in the end its done
Israel did worst since November 2, 1917 when it was created democrats cant rule because they are to gay and republicans cant rule because they are to much astray.

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Posted by: herewego on the 05th 2006f Aug @ 16:47  View profile Quote comment
There are two simple things to debunk this video:

1)The airplane's diameter is roughly 35-40 ft.and is made in a cylinder shape.The top half of the plane is basically hollow while the bottom half is reinforced to hold luggage and the weight of the passangers.

2) The pentagon's outer walls are made out of 3' reinforced concrete and steel and the windows are bullet proof.

You add these two facts together and what you get is half the plane disintegrates upon impact while the bottom half leaves the hole.

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Posted by: 2cents on the 16th 2006f Aug @ 16:32  View profile Quote comment
Many interesting comments. Many rude folks too. I work with structural and steel engineers. Minutes before the first tower fell, the engineer next to me (we all stopped worked and watched in horror on 9/11) described in rather precise detail how the tower would collapse, in the exact way that it did. The tower withstood the plane impact. It would also have withstood a typical non-jet fuel fire. The videos of little blowouts along the way are easily explained with real physics. The stuff about the pentagon is much less incontravertable. I expected to see engines or someting else laying around. I can see the fuselage shredding and wings blowing up, but dang the entire plane. If the broken concrete facade oon the pentagon was damaged due to engine impact, how'd the engine disintegrate? I would like ot see the security footage from other cameras in the area. Other than diehard conspirists(?), a simple clear and unmistakable video of the plane hitting would eliminate all this. First time towers fell due to fire? Plane should leave a bigger hole? Maybe what happened is exactly what happens when these events occur. Not a big fan of Bush, but no way they did this. No way they faked the deathes of the people on the pentagon plane (wouldn't their families be shocked to know). I'm a proud American and I don't think these questions are out of line. I also don't believe the conspiracy theories are true. OK now rip my comments apart. I wanna see some good insults. Or is this thread dead. I'm a noob, so is my use of the word thread correct?

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Posted by: neophyte on the 06th 2007f Apr @ 19:05  View profile Quote comment
us goverment is full of shit no plane no rubbish they fool you guys all a big blanket over they eyes and u guys swallow it like a sweet cookie fuck bush he wanted war so he bombed the pentagon and i certainly think he planned the wtc attack 2 with the terrorists

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